I don't think I've bought it from the best place then by the sounds of it. It's flowered and a good bit of fruit seems to be forming, so maybe I'll only get this batch of fruit. We shall see then. I've kept mines indoors for now (I'm guessing Ikea would have imported it from somewhere hot not used to these climates) and the scent is amazing. What's the best thing to feed a lemon tree? And how can you find out what type of lemons it is?
I dont think you can find out what type of lemon, you can buy separate citrus feeds for summer and winter,from garden centres we are using a liquid fertiliser from The Citrus Centre (Pulborough) only because we visited. They dont like being indoors, especially in winter, they need a cold snap, You could look up Monty Dons advice. My Hubby used to insist our went into our conservaotry, with the warmth, they get scale insect overwinter, because its so warm and cosy, and they give of a revolting sticky substance which covered all my furniture and floor, between us Monty and I managed to convince him they would be fine in a frostfree greenhouse. It it said they will loose their leaves if allowed to go below 10d, but they have been left out at night and forgotten occassionally, and nothing happened. They are outside now, getting a little rain. I find they dont like full summer sun (I know barmy when you hink of hot countries where they grow happily) so Hubby made some stagging which goes round the side of our bungalow in the summer and they sit there quite happily.He also helps polination by going round the flowers with a kids paint brush, and sprays the leaves with (ideally) rainwater. This helps keep the pests at bay. Dont overthink it, dont worry about getting one lot of fruit, of course, they do take a lot longer in England to produce edible size fruit than they would in southern Spain, but most people grow them for the flowers,scent. Last year I had full size lemons made my oldest son a lemon drizzle cake for his Birthday in March, happened just right! I have bought Orchids from Ikea, they are just as good as expensive ones I have bought from "specialist" Orchid growers. If you dont keep them moist, they tiy fruit drop off, very quickly, hence the spraying with water. Hope this helps.
We live in Nottingham == please refer to Mike Sallfelds - UK Home Citrus site re Nottingham Citrus growing outside...... The fruit is not a nice flavour but the juice can be drunk with sugar in it.......
Citrus is quite unique when it comes to growing from 'pips.' From a citrus pip there is usually more plants than one when the pip germinates. One of those emerging plants will be identical with the parent. Some of the emerging plants will be or should I say could be a different variety as well as that phenomenon a variety of Citrus can put forth a sport which is a shoot of a different type of Citrus......... Remarkable are Citrus but a grower has to be both vigilant and patient. In the UK a bit of sun from a sun lamp in winter is of great benefit to many citrus. They
I have a new citrus x meyer plant, bought as a birthday present. I am told it will withstand cold weather here and can be planted out in a sheltered spot. However, I shall grow it in a pot so I can move it about and enjoy its perfume, control watering and feeding and also move it into shelter in cold snaps.
The fruits are large and slightly orange rather than lemon yellow. The fruits are supposed to be sweeter than the lemons sold in shops. I currently have it on a deep outside, south facing window sill and bring it in to an unheated garden room when overnight frost is expected but it goes back out for daytime.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
I have not had a Meyer Lemon but I think it has some orange 'parent' in it hence the sweetness.
These plants are OK outside in the summer but that is when all frost has gone. You'll soon know if it is unhappy with especially the root temp as all the foliage drops off! I've seen that.....
There are several nice books now on Citrus . The first colour book I got was a USA one =
Citrus How to grow and enjoy =Ray & Walheim - it has quite a wealth of knowledge from the Citrus areas of the USA......
If you've been to hotter climes where citrus grom unprotected apart from a bit of shading you'll know the totally different conditions from the UK they can cope with but the hardy rootstocks
help what is on top of that root to stand cooler weather. They do like warmth though.....
A lot of leaves are falling off a Primofiori lemon, a calamondin and a Kumquat I bought from Lidle......... They are not as happy as I would want them to be and that's in a heated conservatory... It's gone quite dull as well re the snow. I bet they are looking forward to the spring! Best of success with your Meyer.
Thanks for that. It's sharing the sheltered windowsill with a small yuzu and currently both are happy. I'm in the Vendée, about 20kms in from the coast so winters are never extreme tho we've had a few frosts lately. Howling winds and rain from the south at the mo so they'll come in for the night for a rest.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
hello, sorry if this sounds ridiculous but I was wondering if it would be possible to try grow from seed or would it be better to just buy a lemon tree already fruiting? I've been trying to read up and it's saying the fruit from the seed of a store bought lemon might not be guaranteed fruit and when they finally fruit, might not be anywhere near what they were like. And it's mostly US sites I can find.
It's not ridiculous so long as you have plenty of time! I would not try to grow Citrus from pips
because if you have to grow a certain variety you would have to wait an age to see which of
the 'seedlings' is the variety that you wanted -even then it would be quite a job sussing out what you want to end up with..........
The Citrus from Aldi or Lidl for half the price of Morrisons seem a good buy. There are some of those on this site I believe. These plants seem to be about 5 to 7 years old and perhaps even older. They seem to be on a dwarfing rootstock which is fine if you want to keep them potted.
We made 4 jars of marmalade from a Kumquat a Calamondin and a single lemon fruit that was on the three trees same summer season we bought them. Re the spraying prior to buying -those folks are quite right -one never knows exactly what they have been sprayed with & they may well have been sprayed with a systemic chemical that can penetrate the rind and don't forget that the professionals have access to chemicals the amateur does not have access to !
We've eaten all the marmalade and nothing has dropped off us yet so we might be OK !
New fruit that has grown this summer is a different matter so all will be well with the new crop.
I'm quite looking forward to a bit of that marmalade from this years fruit production which I think was a bargain for three trees at £15 apiece.
I am a 'fisher' but I haven't been last few years - in the rivers that is due to things going downhill re few fish about. On the Glaslyn at Portmadoc my Welsh pal was one of the very few who could catch mullet . They were the grey ones and we used to see very takable ones re size. The odd ones were a good ten pounds I would say. He once cooked a bit of fish in his deep fryer and asked me to guess what it was....... I could not say what it was but it was very nice.......
He said believe it or not it's mullet! He told me that he had learned what to do with mullet when he caught then & that was to gut them immediately on the river bank. This prevented the muddy flavour leaching into the flesh he said.... There are plenty of those fish moving with the tide on the shallows of that river & I've seen them also in the river Dwyfor near Llanystumdwy in the junction pool where you can fish for free. It's best to get a migratory fish licence though or the River board bailiff might think you are after the sewin! Long time since I had one of those lovely fish ---- I cannot be bothered to fish to have to put them back in but I respect those who just fish for the pleasure of fishing same as the course fishers.
I'm certain I would not have been as successful as I was re catching 20 salmon and quite a few sea trout in a weeks fishing if I had to put them all back------- The killer instinct drove me to catching the uncatchable! Sometimes when the others could not as my Welsh mate said catch not a sausage! A very long time ago he caught 13 sea trout on the Glaslyn when every one else caught nowt. I read it with great pleasure in the Trout and Salmon magazine - Richard Davies had a notable catch........................13 sea trout below the pass.........
I miss him although we used to have an argument now and again about how to do it! It's called a competetive nature. Incidentally his way of catching mullet was with a no 6 hook and harbour ragworm float fished with the bait just on the bed of the river. You could see where the fish were easily...... The same as sea trout and a few salmon he told me when I was green that there is a word re 'striking' when you see a 'bite' you must remember it all your fishing life --- that word is instantaneous. Those who do not possess the lightening fast strike miss quite a few and some people all the fish that they would have had if only they knew!
I tried fishing just the once, in the Thames at Windsor when on a camping holiday as a child in the early 60s. I hated baiting the hook and gave up after catching one fish, just to show I could so I could be left alone to do stuff I liked.
This fish was from a local fish market. Lots of varieties on offer here and most caught off the nearby Atlantic coast so fresh as anything. We eat a lot more fish now than when we lived in Belgium where I could get excellent frozen fish but in a limited range. The grey mullet is usually line caught.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
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I don't think I've bought it from the best place then by the sounds of it. It's flowered and a good bit of fruit seems to be forming, so maybe I'll only get this batch of fruit. We shall see then. I've kept mines indoors for now (I'm guessing Ikea would have imported it from somewhere hot not used to these climates) and the scent is amazing. What's the best thing to feed a lemon tree? And how can you find out what type of lemons it is?
I dont think you can find out what type of lemon, you can buy separate citrus feeds for summer and winter,from garden centres we are using a liquid fertiliser from The Citrus Centre (Pulborough) only because we visited. They dont like being indoors, especially in winter, they need a cold snap, You could look up Monty Dons advice. My Hubby used to insist our went into our conservaotry, with the warmth, they get scale insect overwinter, because its so warm and cosy, and they give of a revolting sticky substance which covered all my furniture and floor, between us Monty and I managed to convince him they would be fine in a frostfree greenhouse. It it said they will loose their leaves if allowed to go below 10d, but they have been left out at night and forgotten occassionally, and nothing happened. They are outside now, getting a little rain. I find they dont like full summer sun (I know barmy when you hink of hot countries where they grow happily) so Hubby made some stagging which goes round the side of our bungalow in the summer and they sit there quite happily.He also helps polination by going round the flowers with a kids paint brush, and sprays the leaves with (ideally) rainwater. This helps keep the pests at bay. Dont overthink it, dont worry about getting one lot of fruit, of course, they do take a lot longer in England to produce edible size fruit than they would in southern Spain, but most people grow them for the flowers,scent. Last year I had full size lemons made my oldest son a lemon drizzle cake for his Birthday in March, happened just right! I have bought Orchids from Ikea, they are just as good as expensive ones I have bought from "specialist" Orchid growers. If you dont keep them moist, they tiy fruit drop off, very quickly, hence the spraying with water. Hope this helps.
We live in Nottingham == please refer to Mike Sallfelds - UK Home Citrus site re Nottingham Citrus growing outside...... The fruit is not a nice flavour but the juice can be drunk with sugar in it.......
Citrus is quite unique when it comes to growing from 'pips.' From a citrus pip there is usually more plants than one when the pip germinates. One of those emerging plants will be identical with the parent. Some of the emerging plants will be or should I say could be a different variety as well as that phenomenon a variety of Citrus can put forth a sport which is a shoot of a different type of Citrus......... Remarkable are Citrus but a grower has to be both vigilant and patient. In the UK a bit of sun from a sun lamp in winter is of great benefit to many citrus. They
love the sun.
I have a new citrus x meyer plant, bought as a birthday present. I am told it will withstand cold weather here and can be planted out in a sheltered spot. However, I shall grow it in a pot so I can move it about and enjoy its perfume, control watering and feeding and also move it into shelter in cold snaps.
The fruits are large and slightly orange rather than lemon yellow. The fruits are supposed to be sweeter than the lemons sold in shops. I currently have it on a deep outside, south facing window sill and bring it in to an unheated garden room when overnight frost is expected but it goes back out for daytime.
I have not had a Meyer Lemon but I think it has some orange 'parent' in it hence the sweetness.
These plants are OK outside in the summer but that is when all frost has gone. You'll soon know if it is unhappy with especially the root temp as all the foliage drops off! I've seen that.....
There are several nice books now on Citrus . The first colour book I got was a USA one =
Citrus How to grow and enjoy =Ray & Walheim - it has quite a wealth of knowledge from the Citrus areas of the USA......
If you've been to hotter climes where citrus grom unprotected apart from a bit of shading you'll know the totally different conditions from the UK they can cope with but the hardy rootstocks
help what is on top of that root to stand cooler weather. They do like warmth though.....
A lot of leaves are falling off a Primofiori lemon, a calamondin and a Kumquat I bought from Lidle......... They are not as happy as I would want them to be and that's in a heated conservatory... It's gone quite dull as well re the snow. I bet they are looking forward to the spring! Best of success with your Meyer.
Thanks for that. It's sharing the sheltered windowsill with a small yuzu and currently both are happy. I'm in the Vendée, about 20kms in from the coast so winters are never extreme tho we've had a few frosts lately. Howling winds and rain from the south at the mo so they'll come in for the night for a rest.
It's not ridiculous so long as you have plenty of time! I would not try to grow Citrus from pips
because if you have to grow a certain variety you would have to wait an age to see which of
the 'seedlings' is the variety that you wanted -even then it would be quite a job sussing out what you want to end up with..........
The Citrus from Aldi or Lidl for half the price of Morrisons seem a good buy. There are some of those on this site I believe. These plants seem to be about 5 to 7 years old and perhaps even older. They seem to be on a dwarfing rootstock which is fine if you want to keep them potted.
We made 4 jars of marmalade from a Kumquat a Calamondin and a single lemon fruit that was on the three trees same summer season we bought them. Re the spraying prior to buying -those folks are quite right -one never knows exactly what they have been sprayed with & they may well have been sprayed with a systemic chemical that can penetrate the rind and don't forget that the professionals have access to chemicals the amateur does not have access to !
We've eaten all the marmalade and nothing has dropped off us yet so we might be OK !
New fruit that has grown this summer is a different matter so all will be well with the new crop.
I'm quite looking forward to a bit of that marmalade from this years fruit production which I think was a bargain for three trees at £15 apiece.
We've just had the first of our Meyer lemons with a grey mullet and black Italian rice. Yum yum.
I am a 'fisher' but I haven't been last few years - in the rivers that is due to things going downhill re few fish about. On the Glaslyn at Portmadoc my Welsh pal was one of the very few who could catch mullet . They were the grey ones and we used to see very takable ones re size. The odd ones were a good ten pounds I would say. He once cooked a bit of fish in his deep fryer and asked me to guess what it was....... I could not say what it was but it was very nice.......
He said believe it or not it's mullet! He told me that he had learned what to do with mullet when he caught then & that was to gut them immediately on the river bank. This prevented the muddy flavour leaching into the flesh he said.... There are plenty of those fish moving with the tide on the shallows of that river & I've seen them also in the river Dwyfor near Llanystumdwy in the junction pool where you can fish for free. It's best to get a migratory fish licence though or the River board bailiff might think you are after the sewin! Long time since I had one of those lovely fish ---- I cannot be bothered to fish to have to put them back in but I respect those who just fish for the pleasure of fishing same as the course fishers.
I'm certain I would not have been as successful as I was re catching 20 salmon and quite a few sea trout in a weeks fishing if I had to put them all back------- The killer instinct drove me to catching the uncatchable! Sometimes when the others could not as my Welsh mate said catch not a sausage! A very long time ago he caught 13 sea trout on the Glaslyn when every one else caught nowt. I read it with great pleasure in the Trout and Salmon magazine - Richard Davies had a notable catch........................13 sea trout below the pass.........
I miss him although we used to have an argument now and again about how to do it! It's called a competetive nature. Incidentally his way of catching mullet was with a no 6 hook and harbour ragworm float fished with the bait just on the bed of the river. You could see where the fish were easily...... The same as sea trout and a few salmon he told me when I was green that there is a word re 'striking' when you see a 'bite' you must remember it all your fishing life --- that word is instantaneous. Those who do not possess the lightening fast strike miss quite a few and some people all the fish that they would have had if only they knew!
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I tried fishing just the once, in the Thames at Windsor when on a camping holiday as a child in the early 60s. I hated baiting the hook and gave up after catching one fish, just to show I could so I could be left alone to do stuff I liked.
This fish was from a local fish market. Lots of varieties on offer here and most caught off the nearby Atlantic coast so fresh as anything. We eat a lot more fish now than when we lived in Belgium where I could get excellent frozen fish but in a limited range. The grey mullet is usually line caught.