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Climbing rose
I have a climbing rose which I'm trying to train over a pergola/ bench thing.
Whenever I try to lean the stems over a bit, they snap. I've tried letting the branch get very high and fat and I've tried doing it when they're thin and whippy - no luck either way.
I thought I'd succeeded once by forming a large arc and then a woodpigeon sat on it and broke it.
I 've got one or two branches that I've managed to train flat, against the top of the pergola but it's the shoots coming vertically from these that are causing the problem.
Advice would be appreciated
Thanks
In London. Keen but lazy.
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So the ones coming vertically from the ones you've managed to "bend", aren't they the flowering shoots?
They are flowering but way too high. It looks like a rosy porcupine.
I want to be able to tie down the shoots if possible without them snapping. If not, should I prune all the shoots and might they get bushy?
Can't remember the name of the rose - it's scented, red and name related to Ireland.
I have had no trouble training other roses -just this one which seems very brittle.
Dublin Bay? The Beales site says it's good for a pillar or obelisk but nothing about training over arches so maybe it isn't flexible enough..
That's my answer then. Thanks obelixx. Right rose wrong place
You'd be better off with a repeat rambler. David Austin have some with good perfume but not that red unfortunately. I've had good experience with a Malvern Hills so have bought one for this garden along with Lady of the Lake. I had a lovely white Kiftsgate and have brought one of its babies with me but it only flowers once and gets huge - 10 metres - so not good for your average arch.
Thanks for suggestions obelixx. there's clematis Montana on same side and a young honeysuckle on the other so I might just prune it back later and give it an obelisk or something to grow up next year. .
Sounds like you arch is going to be busy so an obelisk would be a good solution.
Not as busy as you'd think. Poor dry soil keeps manners on them