Eric's mum. We were taught at school to split the phrase up to determine the correct word so in this case you can say call Dave, you can say call me but nobody would say call I. It is so simple but clearly not all schools cover this.
I wouldn't correct an adult as it can cause bad feeling but I would explain to a child or non English speaker how to work out what is correct usage.
I am dismayed that so many think that these things are no longer taught, but touched by the implication that if they were, people would use correct English. Pupils and, sometimes parents, have told me, "I don't do it like that." They feel that the rules we know are restrictive, snobby, effete. Street English is vibrant and creative, an expression of individuality as well as social context.
Does it matter? Compared to the horrors of the Middle East; the uncertainty of Trump and the chaos of Brexit, it probably doesn't. And yet... English is a language of poets, scientists, philosophers. There is great prose, oratory and drama. Many devotional works are inspiring because of the language. It has to change and develop to reflect the lives we live now, but not to be down-graded, I hope, to satisfy those who have not learned to appreciate what they wish to change.
Chaucer, Shakespeare, Dickens et.al. did not use the same form of English as we use now. English is constantly changing. We all use different forms of English depending on the situation. It is important that we should know how and when to use standard English English in this country, but not feel that we have to use it all the time.
Each country that speaks English as a first or second language has it's own form of standard English and it is not the same as ours.
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I am dismayed that so many think that these things are no longer taught, but touched by the implication that if they were, people would use correct English. Pupils and, sometimes parents, have told me, "I don't do it like that." They feel that the rules we know are restrictive, snobby, effete. Street English is vibrant and creative, an expression of individuality as well as social context.
Does it matter? Compared to the horrors of the Middle East; the uncertainty of Trump and the chaos of Brexit, it probably doesn't. And yet... English is a language of poets, scientists, philosophers. There is great prose, oratory and drama. Many devotional works are inspiring because of the language. It has to change and develop to reflect the lives we live now, but not to be down-graded, I hope, to satisfy those who have not learned to appreciate what they wish to change.
Chaucer, Shakespeare, Dickens et.al. did not use the same form of English as we use now. English is constantly changing. We all use different forms of English depending on the situation. It is important that we should know how and when to use standard English English in this country, but not feel that we have to use it all the time.
Each country that speaks English as a first or second language has it's own form of standard English and it is not the same as ours.
B3 "Each country that speaks English as a first or second language has it's own form of standard English and it is not the same as ours."
or rather "... its own form"
Papi Jo, aka 'grammar nazi'
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It woz spelchequer wot dunnit, Guvnor. Oim a good gel oi am
Predictive text sent a very unprofessional "To much luv" to a Contractor at work when I'd very professionally signed off with, "Ta muchly".
I was disgusted!
Try typing nasturtium and see what you get
Daren't
What do you get?