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Training roses up a building

Hi all,

I recently bought my first home, the garden of which is neighboured on one side by a church which runs the length of the garden. The garden is pretty well established with roses and clematis that were obviously being trained to climb the church wall. They havent gotten very far as there aren't enough supports. I don't think i am allowed to put anything in to the side of the building so I am looking for any techniques or ideas for how I could train the rose up without damaging the brick work at all. I looked in to brick clips but I don't think they will work as the mortar is not recessed.

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  • Hi Leeslaymaker, how about putting fence posts and trellis in your garden, about a foot off the wall? image Not the cheapest way to go, but it will save any conflict further down the line,

    Pat.

  • Brickman0430 says:

    Hi Leeslaymaker, how about putting fence posts and trellis in your garden, about a foot off the wall? 

    image Not the cheapest way to go, but it will save any conflict further down the line,

    Pat.

    See original post

     Hi Pat

    The church is really tall. Taller than a two storey building. Ideally I want to get maximum height and the highest trellis i found was 1.8m

    Lee

  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618

    I think you would have to put up posts and wires.

    If you can get hold of the old book by Gertrude  Jekyll called "Roses for English Gardens", there are photos of stout posts, with  strong rope swagged between them to form  a frame to grow ramblers on. It looks like something out of a very expensive wedding flower set up.

     I think someone copied it at Chelsea either last year or the year before. Everyone was cooing as if it was a new idea.

    http://www.ropemakers.com/Roseswags.asp

    http://gardenerstips.co.uk/products/84/swags-and-ropes-for-growing-roses/

    Also see Queen Marys rose garden in Regents Park in June.

    http://thegardenvisitor.co.uk/queen-marys-rose-garden-fashionistas-nightmare/

  • Does anybody know of a strong but nondamaging masonry glue? I was thinking I could tie of the roses with flexible ties and just glue those to the bricks. That way I could hopefully pop off the glue if ever needed with no damage to the building

    Last edited: 13 April 2017 15:11:59

  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698

    That doesn't sound like it would hold up very long to be honest.

    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • Kitty 2Kitty 2 Posts: 5,150

    You say "I don't think I'm allowed to put anything into the side of the building".

    Have you spoken to anyone from the church?  You'd need their permission to attach supports to their property, whether it was trellis or glue you were using.

    I think erecting a screen in front of the wall is the best solution, as suggested above.

  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698

    I'm sure you can find trellis taller than 1.8m, but if not, you can buy steel concrete reinforcing mesh in decent sizes, which makes a fairly smart support. You'd still need to get long enough posts to support it though. Come to think of it, you may as well double-stack normal trellis panels or just use wires between the posts....

    I'm not sure why it's important to go significantly higher than 6ft though? Is it a very ugly wall or something?

    Last edited: 13 April 2017 21:52:36

    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698

      

    Last edited: 13 April 2017 21:50:36

    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
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