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How to plant a rose arch with Clematis

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  • Bright starBright star Posts: 1,153

    That looks stunning madpenguin! I'm following this thread as I'd like to have an arch or pergola in my garden and the pink and purple rose and clematis combination looks stunning. It would have to be a climbing rose for me as only have a small garden. David Austins Generous Gardener is on my list, the scent is heavenly.

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  • Emma

    There are 2 main types of clematis .

    1 flowers only on shoots (wood) grown that year (so that means if you cut it back in March you will get a fantastic show of flowers that summer and autumn.)

    2 flowers on shoots (wood) from the previous year.

    Then there are evergreen clems which you cut back immediately after flowering. So that they can grow enough and flower the next spring.

    Montanas are utterly fantastic for covering walls/sheds - but hopless for a confined spaces as they are utterly rampant. I have two in my garden but one covers a wall, and the other a shed and they do a great job.

    As it is your first time gardening I would recommend a clematis that flowers on the wood of the year the shoot grows.  There are so many about.  It is your choice to colour and shape.

    Enjoy!

  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117

    Bear in mind the flowering times of your choices  too. It depends whether you want two plants that flower at the same time, so you need to pick accordingly. 

    EV flowers from mid/late summer (July )  until October here. image

    I'd still be very wary of a rambler (rose) unless your arch is substantial - in every way. Those ramblers get big and heavy.

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Thank you all for your advice.  At its peak,  the arch measures approx 10ft, so have decided that perhaps a climber would be better looking at their height and spread x

  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117

    It's also the width, or length, of the sides Emma, and how substantial it is. If it's any less than eighteen inches/45 cm, and not fixed in the ground with sturdy posts, it will struggle to take the weight, especially if the wind catches it.

    Even a samll, lightweight structure attached to posts concreted in to the ground will take more weight, if you can do that. If it's in a sheltered location, it's not so bad either   image

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • rosemummyrosemummy Posts: 2,010

    emma have you looked at a rammbler named'lottle rambler'? may be more sitable if you do still want a rambler type rose

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