Whether I agree with them or not, I have respect for a politician who actually believes in something - apart from the likes of Nigel Cabbage et al. Unfortunately, conviction politicians are a dying breed.
B3, I respect your respect although out of the 600 odd in Parliament how many can you name, the ones I see appear to be wishing to go back in time to an age best forgotten when our Car and Engineering industry went to the wall because of inefficient Government and Management getting it wrong. The hoo ha a few years ago about MP's with both feet in the trough highlighted that. We have T.M. true blue Tory bringing back the past and the very far left thinking it is Christmas, in between nothing apart from some Kilted manics wanting to anchor Scotland to a rock and kick us into space. There must be dedicated and willing people out there as MP's only they are not news so their idea's are not broadcast by the media in fact listening to the media we only have around a dozen people they think worth reporting on and for all the wrong reasons. Bring back the Stump and the budding politicians having meetings with us the hoy poloy, well those interested that is, we may just get the MP we want and not the one imposed on us by some London Office, I wish?
In my opinion, the ideal would be to ban political parties altogether. Candidates would stand alone on their own merits and would only coalesce into like- minded groups after election.
This would probably mean less stability as MPs change groups based on policies but more genuine democracy .
B3, What is the definition of Democracy??? Free will to the people, no Police, no ban on anything, no Government and no Town Council, no having to go to school in fact never having to work let the rich feed the poor only there would not be any rich only the strong as per the Chieftains of long ago. It harks back to my upbringing on Small holdings and Farms that produced most of our food the year round, Mother also a dressmaker, Dad a Haulage Contractor often paid in kind because money was scarce, hence my first Piano, accordion, banjo, steam engine that actually steamed and even first motor bike. Poverty ruled for many, those who could did those who could not begged. That in my lifetime, now poverty is not having a 56" TV I-pad and the latest phone. If you stand up and defame some one you get sued, step out of line you get arrested, hold beliefs considered heretic and watch out, is that Democracy? Is Democracy the Nanny state with all its do's and don'ts, obeying the laws that our peers think are relevant or being completely free to do as we wish no matter whom we hurt. Democracy is only a word, we have certain freedoms but try not paying your taxes which I will pay until the day I die and see what happens even when they have got it wrong you have to prove it. We all obey the rules as laid down by a small number of people in power and I do not think that could be called democracy. My reading of it is, the Weak use the rule of law and the strong use weapons as we can see daily on the news.
I can't give you a definition. I don't dispute we need government. Of course we do.
My issue is with how a government is selected. I find the whip system whereby weak or ambitious politicians are threatened or bribed into loyalty to their party at the expense of the people who voted for them, offensive.
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Whether I agree with them or not, I have respect for a politician who actually believes in something - apart from the likes of Nigel Cabbage et al. Unfortunately, conviction politicians are a dying breed.
B3, I respect your respect although out of the 600 odd in Parliament how many can you name, the ones I see appear to be wishing to go back in time to an age best forgotten when our Car and Engineering industry went to the wall because of inefficient Government and Management getting it wrong. The hoo ha a few years ago about MP's with both feet in the trough highlighted that. We have T.M. true blue Tory bringing back the past and the very far left thinking it is Christmas, in between nothing apart from some Kilted manics wanting to anchor Scotland to a rock and kick us into space. There must be dedicated and willing people out there as MP's only they are not news so their idea's are not broadcast by the media in fact listening to the media we only have around a dozen people they think worth reporting on and for all the wrong reasons. Bring back the Stump and the budding politicians having meetings with us the hoy poloy, well those interested that is, we may just get the MP we want and not the one imposed on us by some London Office, I wish?
Frank.
I hope you're right pg.
In my opinion, the ideal would be to ban political parties altogether. Candidates would stand alone on their own merits and would only coalesce into like- minded groups after election.
This would probably mean less stability as MPs change groups based on policies but more genuine democracy .
B3, What is the definition of Democracy??? Free will to the people, no Police, no ban on anything, no Government and no Town Council, no having to go to school in fact never having to work let the rich feed the poor only there would not be any rich only the strong as per the Chieftains of long ago. It harks back to my upbringing on Small holdings and Farms that produced most of our food the year round, Mother also a dressmaker, Dad a Haulage Contractor often paid in kind because money was scarce, hence my first Piano, accordion, banjo, steam engine that actually steamed and even first motor bike. Poverty ruled for many, those who could did those who could not begged. That in my lifetime, now poverty is not having a 56" TV I-pad and the latest phone. If you stand up and defame some one you get sued, step out of line you get arrested, hold beliefs considered heretic and watch out, is that Democracy? Is Democracy the Nanny state with all its do's and don'ts, obeying the laws that our peers think are relevant or being completely free to do as we wish no matter whom we hurt. Democracy is only a word, we have certain freedoms but try not paying your taxes which I will pay until the day I die and see what happens even when they have got it wrong you have to prove it. We all obey the rules as laid down by a small number of people in power and I do not think that could be called democracy. My reading of it is, the Weak use the rule of law and the strong use weapons as we can see daily on the news.
Frank.
I can't give you a definition. I don't dispute we need government. Of course we do.
My issue is with how a government is selected. I find the whip system whereby weak or ambitious politicians are threatened or bribed into loyalty to their party at the expense of the people who voted for them, offensive.