I think Fif2 has nailed it for the first one. Sweet cicely or Myrrhis odorata. Having seen the second picture of the other plant, it doesn't now look like a fern.
Cacoethes: An irresistible urge to do something inadvisable
Hi Dan. I think I have found your second plant. It is Comptonia peregrina. Its common name is Sweetfern but as it says on the website - its anything but a fern.
Cacoethes: An irresistible urge to do something inadvisable
That confirms it as a different plant as far as I can see Ladybird. That and the large patch of Sweet Cicely a few feet from where I'm sitting.
The US isn't the UK but it's the Northern hemisphere and has Spring when we do. Sweet Cicely flowers in Spring and is now a rather bedraggled specimen with big black seeds. I'll fetch the camera.
That would be good nutcutlet. Mine was just a guess following on from Fif2's ID. I'm quite happy to keep researching. Its just that all the details re smell etc. seemed to fit. America's plants are fairly unknown to me but I love the hunt to track them down.
Cacoethes: An irresistible urge to do something inadvisable
The other thing about Sweet Cicely is that it would be hard to take it for a shrub.
It has a soft hazy look to the leaves as well which this hasn't.
It's always harder to ID from photos. Things look different in real life. I never use on line mages to ID plants on the forum for this reason. I either know the plant or I don't. I can see the differences here because I know Sweet Cicely very well.
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I had to brave the flying ants to get these photos
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I think Fif2 has nailed it for the first one. Sweet cicely or Myrrhis odorata. Having seen the second picture of the other plant, it doesn't now look like a fern.
Hi Dan. I think I have found your second plant. It is Comptonia peregrina. Its common name is Sweetfern but as it says on the website - its anything but a fern.
Ladybird4 and others, thank you. Very much appreciated.
i really can't see that first on as Sweet Cicely or any other umbellifer.
In the sticks near Peterborough
Hi nutcutlet. Try this link:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sweet+cicely+leaves+images+uk&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&imgil=Z434YaAVue-HFM%253A%253BjBYAcfO6NWpLtM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.gallowaywildfoods.com%25252Fsweet-cicely-edibility-identification-distribution%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=Z434YaAVue-HFM%253A%252CjBYAcfO6NWpLtM%252C_&usg=__sLoNWEJKwukMbbS6Y_HobCMecs8%3D&biw=935&bih=563&ved=0ahUKEwiIsdT8tP3NAhVRGsAKHcxZBd4QyjcIMA&ei=MwGNV8jLItG0gAbMs5XwDQ#imgrc=Z434YaAVue-HFM%3A
That confirms it as a different plant as far as I can see Ladybird. That and the large patch of Sweet Cicely a few feet from where I'm sitting.
The US isn't the UK but it's the Northern hemisphere and has Spring when we do. Sweet Cicely flowers in Spring and is now a rather bedraggled specimen with big black seeds. I'll fetch the camera.
In the sticks near Peterborough
That would be good nutcutlet. Mine was just a guess following on from Fif2's ID. I'm quite happy to keep researching. Its just that all the details re smell etc. seemed to fit. America's plants are fairly unknown to me but I love the hunt to track them down.
The other thing about Sweet Cicely is that it would be hard to take it for a shrub.
It has a soft hazy look to the leaves as well which this hasn't.
It's always harder to ID from photos. Things look different in real life. I never use on line mages to ID plants on the forum for this reason. I either know the plant or I don't. I can see the differences here because I know Sweet Cicely very well.
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I had to brave the flying ants to get these photos
Last edited: 18 July 2016 17:54:53
In the sticks near Peterborough