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How to train climbing roses and others

SammymummySammymummy Posts: 202
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Hi

I planted 3 climbing roses last November and they are sprouting healthy shoots. Two of them are against wooden fence and the other a brick wall. I have bought some vine eyes and wall plugs. Do I just need to drill the vine eyes into the fence posts and thread wires?  I also have a winter flowering honeysuckle (Lonicera fragrantissima?) and a climbing hydrangea. I'd appreciate advice about how to train them against the fence/wall. Sorry about the photos - I don't know why they were uploaded sideways.

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  • Dave MorganDave Morgan Posts: 3,123

    Sammy, you use vine eyes into either walls or wood. Which type do you have, the screw or hammer in. Either is acceptable. The screw ones will screw easily into wood, use a screwdriver shaft to get them right in, and into walls you need to drill a hole and insert a wall plug then screw in. The training wires need to be 12- 18 inches apart. Neither the honeysuckle or the hydrangea need a frame, the hydrangea is self clinging, and the honeysuckle is shrubby and can support itself. You can put wires behind if you want but they generally don't need it as they're not climbers.

  • Lou12Lou12 Posts: 1,149

    We've just put wires up too Sammy, screw the eyes into the fence post and get tensioners. Roses are quite heavy. I was looking at climbing rose videos on youtube as I have three and they said when the stems are long enough tie them into the wires lengthwise, new shoots then grow vertically and you get many more flowers.

    We got our tensioners from screwfix but they are not hard to find. Wire on it's own will sag under the weight.

    Good luck, it's the first time I've trained my roses also, in previous years I've just let them do their own thing.

  • Lou12Lou12 Posts: 1,149

    Also works for clematis if the stems are tied in horizontallyyou get more flowers.

  • darren636darren636 Posts: 666
    Depending on the rose, they can get very big.



    Roses need a framework of horizontal stems, as said above.

    You can train the stems when they are young into horizontal layers up the wall, you'll get more side shoots and flower.



    The hydrangea will climb by itself, just tie the stems to something and the new growth will self cling to the fence/wall



    I grew climbing hydrangea and Rosa madame Alfred carriere together over my brick shed

    Worked a charm.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,142

    There's a good explanatory video on this site

    http://paulzimmermanroses.com/gardening/training-roses/training-climbing-roses-on-a-trellis/

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    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • SammymummySammymummy Posts: 202
    Hi all, thank you very much for your advice. The vine eyes are screw type. Thank you for the video link, Dove, it gave me a clear idea. Lou, I googled the tensioners and although I think I know which type you meant, I'm still not sure how to use it. I think my roses are probably too small to bend (not much to bend), but will drill the vine eyes in the fence posts and wall as suggested.
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