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To Keep The Trees Or Not?

When I moved into this house the garden was a total wilderness. It took a lot of time and effort to clear away over 10 years of neglect, and I have had hubby lift some of the paving slabs to make a flower bed. 

What I'm not sure about are the trees. The skinny saplings in the photos are now five years older and bigger. The two close together are rowans, one has red berries the other has orange berries so I'd like to keep them. Further towards the shed is an ash sapling. So far it is healthy.

Would I be better to remove them now before they get any bigger, or is it reasonable to keep the trees in such a little garden? Any advice will be appreciated

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  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,036

    Rowans are lovely and are OK for small gardens. I would get rid of the ash.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,142
    I totally agree with Busy Lizzie image keep the row and and ditch the ash. We've just had one of the two large ashes in our garden felled. It cost ??500 to have done. They get very big quite quickly!

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,036

    When I enlarged the photo it looked as though 2 trees were growing out of the same hole. I would get rid of one.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,384

    Agree with the above.  You also need to remove the slabs around the base of the trees.  They all appear to be growing through the gap between slabs and as they grow they will be damaged by the trunk being restricted and then die or be blown down.

    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,087

    Rowans are often recommended for small gardens so keep at least one but both if possible.  Ash trees get huge and are likely to get ash die-back disease so I would get rid now before it becomes a major logistical problem.

    I would also consider lifting slab at the feet of the trees to allow more light, air and water onto the soil.  You can improve the soil with some bought in compost and plant some spring daffs and maybe allium Purple Sensation for later on and ground cover such as geranium macrrohizum which has a long season of interest - flowers in late spring/early summer and good foliage which turns red in winter.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039

    Agree with above, especially obelixx, who rightly points out, that they need far more space at the base of the trunk.

    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445

    I would check the base of the trunk to make sure they haven't already been damaged. Any bark rubbed away and I wouldn't keep them. 

    I can see what Verdun means as well. What sort of garden are you going to make? Will the trees be an asset or a nuisance?



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039

    No garden is too small for a tree? But possibly only 1.

    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,888

    I think I'm coming down on Verdun's side . 

    As much as I love trees, that plot looks too small . Look how close those walls are, think of the foundations. I think you might be storing up trouble for the future.

    Of course, it's your garden and your choice. 

    Devon.
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