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Turning soil, sub soil and top soil

WaysideWayside Posts: 845

I've been digging a trench for hedging on chalk.

The top soil looks good, I try and keep in a pile, then I hit chalky rubble, and chalk dust, and these piles end up mixed. 

So the sub soil and top soils are mixed, is that terrible?

Is trying to enrich deeply a fruitless task?

Should all efforts of enrichment go in the top?

Will the worms and rain just bring it all down?

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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,888

    what depth is the topsoil?

    Devon.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,036

    Should be OK if you choose hedging that will grow on chalk, such as hornbeam, which I have. I wouldn't enrich the soil too much, just choose the right hedge. Then give it a mulch and keep it watered until it's established. There is a limestone quarry down the road from me and the topsoil here is very thin but there are still lots of trees growing in it.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • WaysideWayside Posts: 845

    About 2 feet in the best places, and then it becomes chalky rubble.

    It might be a stretch calling those 2ft topsoil!  Probably a nice 2 inch of nettle die back and build up at the very top.

    I have common pear hedging, which is chalk tolerant, but I'm not sure to what level.  I think the roots will struggle to bury their way down below when it gets too hard.  But I could well be wrong in my assumption.  The hedge doesn't have to get huge, 2 metres tall and thick would be fine.  I'll try and put some manure on top each year once it settles down.

  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,036

    2 feet isn't too bad at all. It's less than that in parts of my garden before you hit rock. That's 60 cm and I grow roses in pots that deep.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • WaysideWayside Posts: 845

    I assume the chalk is rich in minerals.

    I have had a few piles of big chalk pieces and roots from established trees soon bury their way into what is a rock pile, and they look quite happy.  I guess the chalk holds some water.

     

  • RedwingRedwing Posts: 1,511

    Chalk is calcium carbonate.

    Based in Sussex, I garden to encourage as many birds to my garden as possible.
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