Lou12, right now, thanks to everyone's help, I am definitely considering a blackthorn fence framed by climbing roses or wild roses. Sounds pretty impregnable to me and would create enough privacy... I think...
If you want a truly fiendish bush to plant near your neigbours there is a North American Ribes which is incredibly thorny. This is R.divaricartum, known in England as the Worcester Berry. It is a vigorous grower up to about 6 ft high, very tough and hardy [ coming from central north america it can stand temperatures much lower than central europe]. It has red edible fruits like small gooseberries [if you can manage to pick them]. Like all Ribes it propagates very easily from hardwood cuttings, so you could bulk up your numbers by youself.
Dear Invicta2, I would perhaps have tried your suggestion if it was not for 2 minus points. The neighbours have already destroyed two gooseberries, one apple tree and one goji berry on that side. I simply do not have the time to grow from cuttings. They will destroy anything they can get their hands around.
The second minus is that I have just bought two rambling roses and ten blackthorns. The blackthorns come bare rooted and are a meter high. Hopefully that means that the bushes are already to thorny and too high to get to the roots. They should arrive next week. Fingers crossed.
What method are they using to destroy your plants? Do they enter you property and physically destoy them or use herbicides. If you have a camera and get footage of them in action can't you sue the a*** off them or is German law different from UK law in this respect?
Sadly the laws here are more complicated. Videos cannot be used to charge anyone. Although my partner is going to install one, just so we can observe what is going on. We presume that they climb into the garden via 3 routes. This year the aim is to close these routes, preferably with a lot of pain involved on their side... sorry, for the more sensible ones under us, but after 6 years of this I am just fed up.
The fence with the blackthorns is one of the main routes that we are closing.
In the past they have cut plants off to the ground and they admitted openly feeding my apple tree salt water. I am a peace loving, generally non-racist person who gets along with most people on this planet. Some people however chose not to be liked. My neighbours belong to that group, but rather then create war, we are trying to find ways to preserve our quality of life and locking them out of our life...
Dear Redwing, if only it was that easy. They destroyed our security system and the police ruled that the system was not legally allowed, therefor the vandalism that took place was vandalism of a non-existent object, or objects, and charges cannot be pursued... I love living in Germany and most Germans are very heart felt and kind. It is simply my luck to live next to people that need educating in common behaviour standards...
If faced with neighbours like this I think I would put in herras fencing to keep them out patrolled by a large aggressive dog. Could you put non-drying paint on the places where you think they are climbing in or is that illegal as well? Evidently a German's home is certainly not his Burg/schloss from what you are telling us.
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LOL, thank you fairygirl. I am sure going to try to make it difficult ie painful for them
Lou12, right now, thanks to everyone's help, I am definitely considering a blackthorn fence framed by climbing roses or wild roses. Sounds pretty impregnable to me and would create enough privacy... I think...
If you want a truly fiendish bush to plant near your neigbours there is a North American Ribes which is incredibly thorny. This is R.divaricartum, known in England as the Worcester Berry. It is a vigorous grower up to about 6 ft high, very tough and hardy [ coming from central north america it can stand temperatures much lower than central europe]. It has red edible fruits like small gooseberries [if you can manage to pick them]. Like all Ribes it propagates very easily from hardwood cuttings, so you could bulk up your numbers by youself.
Dear Invicta2, I would perhaps have tried your suggestion if it was not for 2 minus points. The neighbours have already destroyed two gooseberries, one apple tree and one goji berry on that side. I simply do not have the time to grow from cuttings. They will destroy anything they can get their hands around.
The second minus is that I have just bought two rambling roses and ten blackthorns. The blackthorns come bare rooted and are a meter high. Hopefully that means that the bushes are already to thorny and too high to get to the roots. They should arrive next week. Fingers crossed.
What method are they using to destroy your plants? Do they enter you property and physically destoy them or use herbicides. If you have a camera and get footage of them in action can't you sue the a*** off them or is German law different from UK law in this respect?
Sadly the laws here are more complicated. Videos cannot be used to charge anyone. Although my partner is going to install one, just so we can observe what is going on. We presume that they climb into the garden via 3 routes. This year the aim is to close these routes, preferably with a lot of pain involved on their side... sorry, for the more sensible ones under us, but after 6 years of this I am just fed up.
The fence with the blackthorns is one of the main routes that we are closing.
In the past they have cut plants off to the ground and they admitted openly feeding my apple tree salt water. I am a peace loving, generally non-racist person who gets along with most people on this planet. Some people however chose not to be liked. My neighbours belong to that group, but rather then create war, we are trying to find ways to preserve our quality of life and locking them out of our life...
Poor your Gardenviking......this sounds like vandalism and one for the police.
Dear Redwing, if only it was that easy. They destroyed our security system and the police ruled that the system was not legally allowed, therefor the vandalism that took place was vandalism of a non-existent object, or objects, and charges cannot be pursued... I love living in Germany and most Germans are very heart felt and kind. It is simply my luck to live next to people that need educating in common behaviour standards...
Can you get gorse, viking? That would stop most people.
It would make your blood boil that you seem to have no way of preventing this. I really feel for you.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
If faced with neighbours like this I think I would put in herras fencing to keep them out patrolled by a large aggressive dog. Could you put non-drying paint on the places where you think they are climbing in or is that illegal as well? Evidently a German's home is certainly not his Burg/schloss from what you are telling us.