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I have a rambler rose 'princess louise'which is around 2years lld &has barely grown in it's vurrent site so i'm moving it,i don't know if an arch just in the middle of a flower bed will look rubbish,but will it be suitd to an obelisk.this is rosemummy btw,trying out my new phone&can't remember my password!thanks in advance
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Hi,
I have a rambling rose myself and I grow it pinned to the fence. from my experience I think this will work fine growing it up an obelisk.
you will need to cut back old growth and tie in the new shoots every year, rambling roses are very vigorous growers when they are in a happy situation. I have to prune my rambling rose at least 2 times a year just to keep it tidy. removing the oldest growth once a year and tying in the newest healthiest shoots.
I hope this helps a little,
-Jerry
I think you'd constantly be fighting nature if you try to put any rambler on an obelisk. They're simply not big enough. An arch stuck on it's own isn't particularly suitable either unless it links to another structure for the rose to get into and climb up and through. Have you got a shed or something similar it can grow over?
They get very big once they get going rosemummy
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Rosemummy, that rambler can get to 20ft! So an oblelix unless it's a big one won't suit really. It'd be better on a fence/wall if you can. Have to be a pretty big arch as well. You might get away with an arch but you'll be permanently winding in new stems though and that will hurt, trust me, got scratched to bits today with an unruly rambler!
I agree about arches and obelisks being too small. On your parallel thread - I suggest rope swaggers with photos to illustrate.
not too big apparently got it from david austin, says 12 foot? it's going in front garden and haven' t got loads of space to play with, i wanted it to grow up thiroiugh fig tree in back garden but although it's planted 2 metres away from trunk of fig it's never grown and has stayed less than 18 inches tall...may have to be a less than perfect situation in the circumstances
If you got it from David Austin and followed their planting advice and it has only grown 18 inches in 2 years I suggest you contact them for advice/refund/replacement.
As for not having space for a rope swagger, each fence post would be 4" deep and wide and the rope would be in the air so not taking up ground space. Loads less space needed than for an arch or obelisk.
obelixx i think you are amazing! I've been gazing out of the window and I think Icould actually have 3 posts along the side of our garden meets next door's, I wouldn'tneed planning permission or anything would I? just that our road is a section d in conservation area...then all I have to do is find the posts...and get someone to put them in ! Do you really think it may be the rose that's not up to much? presumed it just didn't get enough sun, it is really small, doesn't look unhealthy though, not seen a sniff of a flower obviously, maybe I should call them
sorry Obelixx just had a quick browse on net, what would be way to make a colonade? wooden fence posts? metal? and rope? concreted in? I can feel a trip to the G.C coming on
I think wooden posts would look best. You can get them at builders' merchants, DIY stores and garden centres so compare prices first. I would suggest 4" by 4" fence posts buried in concrete boots. For this you just need to dig deep holes about 12" wide, pour in some dry concrete mix, put the posts in so that between 12 to 18 inches are buried and then fill the rest of the hole with concrete. Pour on some water and use 2 spirit levels on 2 adjacent post sides to make sure it is vertical. If you use quick drying concrete you can let go after just a few minutes and do the next one.
I would suggest leaving 2m of post above ground and you'll first need to drill a hole through that's wide enough to take the rope. Measure the distance between posts and add extra to allow for the swag to droop a bit and also to allow a decorative knot at each end. Apparently, natural rope is best and swags best if soaked in a bucket of water for an hour or two then left to drain excess moisture. You can fix it with screws drilled through it and into the wood at each side of the posts.
Plant your rose near the centre post and then you can train it along both swags. You may need a loop of wire mesh to help it climb up the post - assuming you can get it to grow. Talk to your conservation officer about the posts first and DA about your rose..
Thanks again obelixx spoke to DA today they said try it in new position if no improvement call back, will have to get a builder or gardener to put posts up, I'm v small, not strong and have 2 tiny helpers attached! I'll ask council, though the posts wouldn't be quite as high as some shrubs in neighbouring gardens so hopefully will be ok, just want to get cracking now and move rose asap!