tcm, re leaves, I stand corrected! Can we still be friends? Bramble leaves will have thorns on the leaf spine itself, roses generally lack this endearing feature.
LOL of course friends PeterE17 (presuming you live in Walthamstow as opposed to being a pop start from the 90's?) . To be fair the "normal" roses' leaves do look quite different, but the ones which have gone feral seem to start to go a bit more back to brambly I think? I will certainly look closely at thorn attachment (and their extent up leaf spines) as well as stem profiles when tacking my thorny problems . Thanks
No, not a pop star, I was the 17th member of a forum for people called "Peter E" but it had nothing going on so we closed it.
Ok, I had a cats' toilet in Walthamstow once, nothing grew there but grass, Leylandii and Forsythia. And of course brambles in the greenhouse base after the glass top was blown over by a storm.
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tcm, re leaves, I stand corrected! Can we still be friends? Bramble leaves will have thorns on the leaf spine itself, roses generally lack this endearing feature.
LOL of course friends PeterE17 (presuming you live in Walthamstow as opposed to being a pop start from the 90's?)
. To be fair the "normal" roses' leaves do look quite different, but the ones which have gone feral seem to start to go a bit more back to brambly I think? I will certainly look closely at thorn attachment (and their extent up leaf spines) as well as stem profiles when tacking my thorny problems 
. Thanks 
No, not a pop star, I was the 17th member of a forum for people called "Peter E" but it had nothing going on so we closed it.
Ok, I had a cats' toilet in Walthamstow once, nothing grew there but grass, Leylandii and Forsythia. And of course brambles in the greenhouse base after the glass top was blown over by a storm.