sodium chlorate used to be a bit different in the old days. It used to say in big letters on the pack "DO NOT MIX WITH SUGAR" (as if that idea would ever have crossed your mind normally) This was because it became highly explosive if mixed in said way. Unfortunately I think the IRA worked out the possibilities because it was suddenly taken off the shelves. When it next appeared the message about sugar had gone so I think it has been modified in some way. Plus the packs are now small not catering size as in the old days.
As i have dug & removed the heavy stones at the bottom, i can see some roots go through the pea gravel trench and immediatly under the patio flags. These flags have been (well) laid on dry sand cement that has gone off, so ideally I don't want to lift or move these if at all possible.
How they can grow / spread through this I don't know but they do. Obviously I can cut the roots off as they go under at the edge but by doing that, will they actually survive under there as, the roots have come from the soil beds, where I assume they took the required nutrients, water? Or will they just re- root under there (as I say, there is a good depth of sand & cement).
Equally, at the top, roots shoot off under the lawn, I have not cut these yet and wondered if I could treat the roots as opposed to the foliage? Maybe sit hem in a weed emailer suction a lot solution?
Also, I have seen elsewhere that some people have used vinegar to spray the foliage, anyone confirm if that works?
My goodness, must check posts first (& damn you, auto correct)
So this one:
Equally, at the top, roots shoot off under the lawn, I have not cut these yet and wondered if I could treat the roots as opposed to the foliage? Maybe sit hem in a weed emailer suction a lot solution?
Was actually:
Equally, at the top, roots shoot off under the lawn, I have not cut these yet and wondered if I could treat the roots as opposed to the foliage? Maybe sit them in a weed killer solution?
sodium chlorate used to be a bit different in the old days. It used to say in big letters on the pack "DO NOT MIX WITH SUGAR" (as if that idea would ever have crossed your mind normally) This was because it became highly explosive if mixed in said way. Unfortunately I think the IRA worked out the possibilities because it was suddenly taken off the shelves. When it next appeared the message about sugar had gone so I think it has been modified in some way. Plus the packs are now small not catering size as in the old days.
Bit like 'old' and 'new' creosote then Butts? I am always told the new stuff isn't as good as it used to be.
so is the new sodium chlorate not as effective Either?
I think its just so daft pratts don't get bright ideas. Same reason you find it difficult to get flowers of sulphur, iron filings, and various other chemicals.
I'm not a great fan of weedkiller but when I need to use it, I think the only weedkiller worth having is Resolva. I find Roundup useless. Horsetail will find it's way round Visqueen (know the stuff well) as it will find it's way round and through most things unfortunately! Once you have it in your plot you just have to accept you need to work at keeping it at bay. Smothering (where possible) and pulling it out or constanly chopping it off if you don't want to use chemicals. We had it growing up through the pond at our last house, coming from the surrounding banks, and was impossible to deal with. We could only keep on top of it as best we could. Waterbutts is right- it'll sit there waiting to sprout - coiled up and tangled through everything, and just keeps travelling underground till it finds alittle chance to break through.
No wonder it's survived since the dinosaurs!
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Realstokebloke. I laughed for about five minutes at your suggestion for controlling Marie's tails. The one about the emailing suction whatever!! I think that's the only solution to a terrible menace!
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I tread on mare tail and spray with Resolva24h, works a treat in a few days.
sodium chlorate used to be a bit different in the old days. It used to say in big letters on the pack "DO NOT MIX WITH SUGAR" (as if that idea would ever have crossed your mind normally) This was because it became highly explosive if mixed in said way. Unfortunately I think the IRA worked out the possibilities because it was suddenly taken off the shelves. When it next appeared the message about sugar had gone so I think it has been modified in some way. Plus the packs are now small not catering size as in the old days.
Not sure where the 50ft of root came from
RHS says 7ft. Can't say I've ever dug all the way down to see how far it goes tho.
As i have dug & removed the heavy stones at the bottom, i can see some roots go through the pea gravel trench and immediatly under the patio flags. These flags have been (well) laid on dry sand cement that has gone off, so ideally I don't want to lift or move these if at all possible.
How they can grow / spread through this I don't know but they do. Obviously I can cut the roots off as they go under at the edge but by doing that, will they actually survive under there as, the roots have come from the soil beds, where I assume they took the required nutrients, water? Or will they just re- root under there (as I say, there is a good depth of sand & cement).
Equally, at the top, roots shoot off under the lawn, I have not cut these yet and wondered if I could treat the roots as opposed to the foliage? Maybe sit hem in a weed emailer suction a lot solution?
Also, I have seen elsewhere that some people have used vinegar to spray the foliage, anyone confirm if that works?
Thanks.
My goodness, must check posts first (& damn you, auto correct)
So this one:
Equally, at the top, roots shoot off under the lawn, I have not cut these yet and wondered if I could treat the roots as opposed to the foliage? Maybe sit hem in a weed emailer suction a lot solution?
Was actually:
Equally, at the top, roots shoot off under the lawn, I have not cut these yet and wondered if I could treat the roots as opposed to the foliage? Maybe sit them in a weed killer solution?
Bit like 'old' and 'new' creosote then Butts? I am always told the new stuff isn't as good as it used to be.
so is the new sodium chlorate not as effective Either?
I think its just so daft pratts don't get bright ideas. Same reason you find it difficult to get flowers of sulphur, iron filings, and various other chemicals.
I'm not a great fan of weedkiller but when I need to use it, I think the only weedkiller worth having is Resolva. I find Roundup useless. Horsetail will find it's way round Visqueen (know the stuff well) as it will find it's way round and through most things unfortunately! Once you have it in your plot you just have to accept you need to work at keeping it at bay. Smothering (where possible) and pulling it out or constanly chopping it off if you don't want to use chemicals. We had it growing up through the pond at our last house, coming from the surrounding banks, and was impossible to deal with. We could only keep on top of it as best we could. Waterbutts is right- it'll sit there waiting to sprout - coiled up and tangled through everything, and just keeps travelling underground till it finds alittle chance to break through.
No wonder it's survived since the dinosaurs!
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Realstokebloke. I laughed for about five minutes at your suggestion for controlling Marie's tails. The one about the emailing suction whatever!! I think that's the only solution to a terrible menace!
Oh God, it's happening again...... HaveNt laughed liyear agesyear ages