...ooh that would be nice, thank you for thinking of me... let us see how things are next summer, hopefully will have more time than I do at present...... I think you might agree with me when I say that I'm busier now than I've ever been in my life... even in my teens' and 20's.... goodness knows what's happened..... unfortunately mine are work and domestic duties rather than hobbies as such, as it seems to be with you and you have such a varied range going on there.... where have I gone wrong...?
That's why I have to give up work - I need to do all those things - they're all things that are important to me but I hardly ever do any of them at the moment - so when the retirement option arrived I grasped it - 5th November is my last day at work, so next summer I should be just getting into the swing of having fun
Apologies to the original poster by the way, it seems we've rather veered off course - but I think we'd answered the question.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Thanks to all for info but unfortunately I still have a problem in as much as I don't have the space to take your advice. I love the pinning down idea. Sounds great. However I cut it down after it flowered last year because it had reached almost 7 ft high and across and had become too big for the space I had. It's been wonderful for all of 20 years and last year had hundreds of flowers but if I can't control it I may have to be drastic. On the bright side I did manage to root two cuttings from last year (one of which is actually budded) so maybe I can start again - that is if I can find a space!
I can highly recommend retirement so hope you two have a nice time when you meet up.
Hi guys, hope you don't mind my joining in but so lovely to hear fans of the 'old roses'. Just to add if Ispahan is getting too large for the space, then Leda is supposed to stay smaller and more compact. Apparently there are two forms of this the'painted' Damask ad the pink form.
Obviously Ispahan is enjoying where it is if your plant is doing so well, always a shame when things just get too big however.
The thing with old roses is that they do have particlular habits and have to be given room to do their thing. I would just add, that Beales would be good to contact for advice on classic roses as they are experts in that particlular line of roses.
Good luck Fairlea with whatever you do with your rose
Leda - the Painted Damask...a very beautiful old rose indeed...
another smaller one I like very much is a Portland called Comte de Chambord, in fact I would rather have this one than the popular modern variety called 'Gertrude Jekyll', one which I no longer grow....
I have rosa mundi (love the history and folk lore that goes with it too), tuscany superb, the bourbon louise odier (rescued from my college when i was there), rosa glauca, macrantha raubritter. But I do have some newer ones the Austins Lady Emma Hamilton, I do have Gertrude Jekyll, new this year. Deep red flower carpet for a difficult situation on the front garden and also bought from GW live this year whilst I was on the Plant Heritage stand - Jacqueline du pre.
would love more but garden's only small. But whilst at college I worked voluntarily for a year on their national collection of old roses, and was hooked! pardon the pun.
...a fine collection... I've grown a few of those, Louise Odier, and Glauca.. also GJ as I said... nothing wrong with red flower carpet either... I grow a similar white one... these are very useful modern roses...
appreciate your enthusiasm... I wish I grew more but I don't have the space either, the only old fashioned I grow are 'Mutabilis' a China rose, and 'Blush Noisette' a climber... also another China called 'Sanguinea'... otherwise mostly modern these days...my favourite rose is the very scentless 'Bonica' I just think it's fantastic otherwise...
always want to grow more but days of big gardens are long gone for me...
I've grown two Bonicas, they are just gorgeous aren't they? They just flower and flower, and what a pretty flower it is. As you say, if only it was scented - but plant a Graham Thomas honeysuckle behind it and you won't notice the lack of scent.
Have you tried cutting a few of them and mixing them with alchemilla mollis in a little jug - absolute magic
We planted a Frances E Lester ramber last year - the plan is for it to scramble over the fence and up into the ash tree on the bank - it's such a pretty rose
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
...no I've not tried mixing them with alchemilla, I don't have that plant... I grow Bonica with a Geranium 'Cambridge'... which looks quite pretty.... it's funny you mention the Graham Thomas honeysuckle as I've recently planted one of those up a trellis...
I take your point about the scent... perhaps the colour match might not be quite right for me...?? I will have space next to the rose for something later on, I was thinking a scented clematis scrambler.. like 'Flammula'... ?? or maybe not...what do you think?
I grew Frances E Lester in my garden on the south coast... tell me what you think of it later on... I was a little disappointed by the scent, not as strong as expected, and sharp thorns... watch out for those... lovely flowers though, quite large...
here are 2 photos I've taken today. One of Bonica and the other of an Austin pink climber 'Mortimer Sackler'... this is quite the ideal rose for an obelisk, it's growing up a 6 foot one here...and has a gorgeous scent during warm weather... compact narrow growth, no diseases... too perfect by half really....
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...ooh that would be nice, thank you for thinking of me... let us see how things are next summer, hopefully will have more time than I do at present...
... I think you might agree with me when I say that I'm busier now than I've ever been in my life... even in my teens' and 20's.... goodness knows what's happened.....
unfortunately mine are work and domestic duties rather than hobbies as such, as it seems to be with you and you have such a varied range going on there.... where have I gone wrong...?
That's why I have to give up work - I need to do all those things - they're all things that are important to me but I hardly ever do any of them at the moment - so when the retirement option arrived I grasped it - 5th November is my last day at work, so next summer I should be just getting into the swing of having fun
Apologies to the original poster by the way, it seems we've rather veered off course - but I think we'd answered the question.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Thanks to all for info but unfortunately I still have a problem in as much as I don't have the space to take your advice. I love the pinning down idea. Sounds great. However I cut it down after it flowered last year because it had reached almost 7 ft high and across and had become too big for the space I had. It's been wonderful for all of 20 years and last year had hundreds of flowers but if I can't control it I may have to be drastic. On the bright side I did manage to root two cuttings from last year (one of which is actually budded) so maybe I can start again - that is if I can find a space!
I can highly recommend retirement so hope you two have a nice time when you meet up.
Lots of people get plants that are too big for the space, it's hard when they've outgown it
Agree about retirement
In the sticks near Peterborough
Hi guys, hope you don't mind my joining in but so lovely to hear fans of the 'old roses'. Just to add if Ispahan is getting too large for the space, then Leda is supposed to stay smaller and more compact. Apparently there are two forms of this the'painted' Damask ad the pink form.
Obviously Ispahan is enjoying where it is if your plant is doing so well, always a shame when things just get too big however.
The thing with old roses is that they do have particlular habits and have to be given room to do their thing. I would just add, that Beales would be good to contact for advice on classic roses as they are experts in that particlular line of roses.
Good luck Fairlea with whatever you do with your rose
..thank you Fairlea...
hi Sunnydayz... if only it were - more often...
Leda - the Painted Damask...a very beautiful old rose indeed...
another smaller one I like very much is a Portland called Comte de Chambord, in fact I would rather have this one than the popular modern variety called 'Gertrude Jekyll', one which I no longer grow....
what roses do you grow then...?
Hi Salino,
I have rosa mundi (love the history and folk lore that goes with it too), tuscany superb, the bourbon louise odier (rescued from my college when i was there), rosa glauca, macrantha raubritter. But I do have some newer ones the Austins Lady Emma Hamilton, I do have Gertrude Jekyll, new this year. Deep red flower carpet for a difficult situation on the front garden and also bought from GW live this year whilst I was on the Plant Heritage stand - Jacqueline du pre.
would love more but garden's only small. But whilst at college I worked voluntarily for a year on their national collection of old roses, and was hooked! pardon the pun.
...a fine collection... I've grown a few of those, Louise Odier, and Glauca.. also GJ as I said... nothing wrong with red flower carpet either... I grow a similar white one... these are very useful modern roses...
appreciate your enthusiasm... I wish I grew more but I don't have the space either, the only old fashioned I grow are 'Mutabilis' a China rose, and 'Blush Noisette' a climber... also another China called 'Sanguinea'... otherwise mostly modern these days...my favourite rose is the very scentless 'Bonica' I just think it's fantastic otherwise...
always want to grow more but days of big gardens are long gone for me...
I've grown two Bonicas, they are just gorgeous aren't they? They just flower and flower, and what a pretty flower it is. As you say, if only it was scented - but plant a Graham Thomas honeysuckle behind it and you won't notice the lack of scent.
Have you tried cutting a few of them and mixing them with alchemilla mollis in a little jug - absolute magic
We planted a Frances E Lester ramber last year - the plan is for it to scramble over the fence and up into the ash tree on the bank - it's such a pretty rose
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
...no I've not tried mixing them with alchemilla, I don't have that plant... I grow Bonica with a Geranium 'Cambridge'... which looks quite pretty.... it's funny you mention the Graham Thomas honeysuckle as I've recently planted one of those up a trellis...
I take your point about the scent... perhaps the colour match might not be quite right for me...?? I will have space next to the rose for something later on, I was thinking a scented clematis scrambler.. like 'Flammula'... ?? or maybe not...what do you think?
I grew Frances E Lester in my garden on the south coast... tell me what you think of it later on... I was a little disappointed by the scent, not as strong as expected, and sharp thorns... watch out for those... lovely flowers though, quite large...
here are 2 photos I've taken today. One of Bonica and the other of an Austin pink climber 'Mortimer Sackler'... this is quite the ideal rose for an obelisk, it's growing up a 6 foot one here...and has a gorgeous scent during warm weather... compact narrow growth, no diseases... too perfect by half really....
Bonica
Mortimer Sackler