Hi Salino. Lass I was just commenting in that post on these ( as the others) as plants I liked and had grown - no statement other than that was intended. I liked CL's writing and choices myself but these comments are strictly my own preferences of the past. No thoughts about the Arnebias, Sternbergias or Crinum - enjoy your comments and thoughts and would like to hear them (yours and Verduns) on these as with any others I mention if I continue posting my thoughts on a selection of what I have grown in the past. By the way ref that Scopolia this I found looking through those 2 liner small ads in the garden mags as I said I found many great plants years ago. I only found out later that they were/are rare plants. - They do so I read only grow in just one place in Slovenia ( I think) - Scopolia carniolica itself has brown/mauve flowers but the one I have "hladnikiana" has pale green yellow flowers (as it should have) so I feel sure I have the correct plant. Both are rated rare to very rare in the case of hladnikiana and are on the lists of threatened species again.so I read.
Verdun... it's called Christopher Lloyd's GARDEN FLOWERS [Perennials,Bulbs,Grasses,Ferns]...
published in 2000 by Domino books... when it came out - hardback - it cost £30.00...
lots of lovely photos...
like you I've grown some Phormiums.. my biggest and I suppose the best were cookianium 'Tricolour' which grew into a huge plant with lots of flower spikes... Yellow Wave.. I loved this billowing in the breeze, also lots of flowers... Evening Glow... and it really does glow when backlit by the sun... Sundowner, which grew very big too but I preferred this, like some others, when young and fresh for some reason... Maori Queen... quite a nice colour, but suffers in the winter here.. and is cut back... Jester wasn't hardy for me here in the East...Alison Blackman survives well - I have 2... 1 does better than the other but I love the yellow/brown leaves on this...
perhaps my favourite on the south coast where I grew it, was 'Firebird'.. a name given to so many plants but in this one it really glowed all shades of red again when backlit by the sun... it's not one I see very much either...
I've heard of Anemone Wild Swan, maybe another day... see how people get on with it... I think that's a different type though...?
..yes that's alright, I know you were just putting your thoughts to print about the plants you have grown in the past, but I like to comment here and there.. most of these I've not really heard of much, nor grown, the ones that you mention... however, I have found both Scopolia and Arnebia in my colourful garden books on perennials and this is what I can tell you... my books are by noted garden writers/photographers Roger Phillips and Martyn Rix...
Scopolia carniolica - they give a photo of this taken at RHS Wisley garden... lovely yellow/green flowers, fresh green leaves on thick stumpy stems - short stocky plants... the variety name hladnikiana is not mentioned, yet the colour is the same as you describe for this cultivar... but they simply refer to it as carniolica...
it's also a native of Austria, Italy, Yugoslavia eastwards to the Baltic, Russia and the Caucasus... they state the flowers are usually brownish/purple or brownish/orange but sometimes all greenish/yellow as in the photo... so perhaps they were showing the hladnikiana cultivar but weren't aware of that name...
Arnebia echioides is also known as Arnebia pulchra or longiflora... pretty yellow flowers...to us, at a glance, it might look like a primula until closer inspection of the leaves... quite a pretty little thing...
Hi Salino. Ref that Scopolia ( last comment about it). Did some Googling and this is a brief part of what is said.. Back in 1550 the original plants were found and were later named afte rthe famous Idrian physician and natural historian "Janez Anton Scopoli" and the former province of Scopoli, presumably this means the brown/mauve flowered one = Scopolia carniolca. Later plants were found in the forests around Turtak with the yellow flowers by botanist Franc Hladnic - hence Scopolia carnilioca hlanikiana. Got this by typing the plants full name only into search and this is some details from first reference on page.
..oh I'm glad you've been able to order it... I've been re-reading it today, such wonderful photographs, his use of plants, colour and form just remarkable really... one plant you mentioned above.. Calamagrostis 'Overdam'... he uses near a flight of steps placed above Fuchsia 'Riccartonii'.. with Phlox and a yellow plant... it's a gorgeous shot that...
..I think I must get that Fuchsia again... it's been a long time since I had it.. and this has inspired me to find a place for one..
...he was never afraid to combine pink and yellow either...see that wonderful picture of the tall yellow Verbascums.. pink Phlox and some other yellow plants...cooled with some fresh green leafage and all backed by Clematis Jackmanii Superba on a pole... it's just magic...
..yes I preferred not to let my Phormiums get out of hand.. I don't like them when they do... I clear out all the old stems each Spring...
Keen 1
thank you for that information...quite some history going on there...
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Hi Salino. Lass I was just commenting in that post on these ( as the others) as plants I liked and had grown - no statement other than that was intended. I liked CL's writing and choices myself but these comments are strictly my own preferences of the past. No thoughts about the Arnebias, Sternbergias or Crinum - enjoy your comments and thoughts and would like to hear them (yours and Verduns) on these as with any others I mention if I continue posting my thoughts on a selection of what I have grown in the past. By the way ref that Scopolia this I found looking through those 2 liner small ads in the garden mags as I said I found many great plants years ago. I only found out later that they were/are rare plants. - They do so I read only grow in just one place in Slovenia ( I think) - Scopolia carniolica itself has brown/mauve flowers but the one I have "hladnikiana" has pale green yellow flowers (as it should have) so I feel sure I have the correct plant. Both are rated rare to very rare in the case of hladnikiana and are on the lists of threatened species again.so I read.
Verdun... it's called Christopher Lloyd's GARDEN FLOWERS [Perennials,Bulbs,Grasses,Ferns]...
published in 2000 by Domino books... when it came out - hardback - it cost £30.00...
lots of lovely photos...
like you I've grown some Phormiums.. my biggest and I suppose the best were cookianium 'Tricolour' which grew into a huge plant with lots of flower spikes... Yellow Wave.. I loved this billowing in the breeze, also lots of flowers... Evening Glow... and it really does glow when backlit by the sun... Sundowner, which grew very big too but I preferred this, like some others, when young and fresh for some reason... Maori Queen... quite a nice colour, but suffers in the winter here.. and is cut back... Jester wasn't hardy for me here in the East...Alison Blackman survives well - I have 2... 1 does better than the other but I love the yellow/brown leaves on this...
perhaps my favourite on the south coast where I grew it, was 'Firebird'.. a name given to so many plants but in this one it really glowed all shades of red again when backlit by the sun... it's not one I see very much either...
I've heard of Anemone Wild Swan, maybe another day... see how people get on with it... I think that's a different type though...?
Keen 1,
..yes that's alright, I know you were just putting your thoughts to print about the plants you have grown in the past, but I like to comment here and there.. most of these I've not really heard of much, nor grown, the ones that you mention... however, I have found both Scopolia and Arnebia in my colourful garden books on perennials and this is what I can tell you... my books are by noted garden writers/photographers Roger Phillips and Martyn Rix...
Scopolia carniolica - they give a photo of this taken at RHS Wisley garden... lovely yellow/green flowers, fresh green leaves on thick stumpy stems - short stocky plants... the variety name hladnikiana is not mentioned, yet the colour is the same as you describe for this cultivar... but they simply refer to it as carniolica...
it's also a native of Austria, Italy, Yugoslavia eastwards to the Baltic, Russia and the Caucasus... they state the flowers are usually brownish/purple or brownish/orange but sometimes all greenish/yellow as in the photo... so perhaps they were showing the hladnikiana cultivar but weren't aware of that name...
Arnebia echioides is also known as Arnebia pulchra or longiflora... pretty yellow flowers...to us, at a glance, it might look like a primula until closer inspection of the leaves... quite a pretty little thing...
I'm sorry but I'm pretty sure I was 27 before anyone here=1953,can you bet it?
Bill
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Hi Salino. Ref that Scopolia ( last comment about it). Did some Googling and this is a brief part of what is said.. Back in 1550 the original plants were found and were later named afte rthe famous Idrian physician and natural historian "Janez Anton Scopoli" and the former province of Scopoli, presumably this means the brown/mauve flowered one = Scopolia carniolca. Later plants were found in the forests around Turtak with the yellow flowers by botanist Franc Hladnic - hence Scopolia carnilioca hlanikiana. Got this by typing the plants full name only into search and this is some details from first reference on page.
..oh I'm glad you've been able to order it... I've been re-reading it today, such wonderful photographs, his use of plants, colour and form just remarkable really... one plant you mentioned above.. Calamagrostis 'Overdam'... he uses near a flight of steps placed above Fuchsia 'Riccartonii'.. with Phlox and a yellow plant... it's a gorgeous shot that...
..I think I must get that Fuchsia again... it's been a long time since I had it.. and this has inspired me to find a place for one..
...he was never afraid to combine pink and yellow either...see that wonderful picture of the tall yellow Verbascums.. pink Phlox and some other yellow plants...cooled with some fresh green leafage and all backed by Clematis Jackmanii Superba on a pole... it's just magic...
..yes I preferred not to let my Phormiums get out of hand.. I don't like them when they do... I clear out all the old stems each Spring...
Keen 1
thank you for that information...quite some history going on there...