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Garden mesh

WillsWills Posts: 262
Hi I have bought garden mesh from b and m I have put a strip of it and I am not impressed the squares on it look to small for the leaves and stems to twine around oblelixx mentioned that I can use vine eyes and vertical wire for my honeysuckle which I have done can I use the same technique for the clematis. Sorry for any typos using fine.
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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117

    Wires on vine eyes are fine Wills. I've used them for all sorts if I don't have trellis or something in place. Make sure you have some low enough to get them started if you put them horizontally rather then vertically. Tie them in until they get going themselves. You could also put them both ways to make a large grid effect. They'll still need the odd bit of help to go where you want them but it also depends on the place you have them. image

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • WillsWills Posts: 262
    Hi Fairy girl the only problem I have is if I put the wire horizontally the vine eyes are going into cement and when I go to tighten the wire the vine eyes come flying out.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117

    No probs Wills - put them vertically. You just have to arrange the stems into place to get them covering the area you have  image

    Or drill holes for the vine eyes first if that's possible image

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • WillsWills Posts: 262
    Vertically the vine eyes will go into the wood. Horizontal I might drill a hole and see if the vine eye will stay in under tension
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,071

    Are you using rawl plugs for the vine eyes?    Stretched wires are fine for all climbing plants.   Horizontal is usually easiest for training and improving flower poawer but diagonal from a main base would also do.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • WillsWills Posts: 262
    To be honest last time i just screwed them into the cement hence why they shot out will drill a hole and put rawl plugs in and see if they stay in
  • Steve 309Steve 309 Posts: 2,753

    ...or hammer a softwood plug into the drilled hole.  It won't last as long as a plastic one but it's not made from oil....

  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117

    The fixings have to be secure Wills. Climbers are hefty once they get going! image

    I always do mine horizontally - I hadn't really thought about it , but as obelixx says, training stems sideways always means more flowers. Perhaps that's the reason I'd never think of doing it any other way!  If you're short of space or you have to do them vertically, wind the stems back and forth across the wires to  get the best outcome. A bit more effort, but it'll be worth it  image

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • WillsWills Posts: 262
    I am going to give horizontal a bash my fence panels are about 8 feet in width just hoping that I can get the wire tight enough without the vines popping out or the wire Snapping image
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,071

    Make sure you drill deep holes and use good quality rawl plugs.  We've done it on our brick façade and it's all coping well with a large Kiftsgate rose and has withstood some very strong gales.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
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