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LG_LG_ Posts: 4,355

Hello,

Can anyone identify this lovely small tree that grows near where I live, completely merged with a hawthorn? Sadly I didn't get round to taking photos of the flowers earlier in the year, but they're white / cream, very pretty and larger than hawthorn flowers. Somewhat like little wild roses. 

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  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,355

    No one? It's more of a mystery than I thought!

    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
  • I think it's a Sorbus, but they are difficult to get to species.

  • Could it be a medlar

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445

    I'd go with a sorbus as well



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,355

    Having looked both up, i think possibly a medlar. Sorbus flowers and fruit seem to be in clusters, and the pictures of medlar flowers seem much closer to what I've seen. Also, interestingly, one of the articles I found when looking for medlars said that they are usually grafted on to wild hawthorn stock, which might explain why the two trees seem completely blended.

    Here's a very comparable picture

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Medlar_pomes_and_leaves.jpg

     and here are the flowers - gorgeous eh?

    http://suttons.s3.amazonaws.com/p/FRMED21328_3.jpg

     Thanks, I think this is it. 

    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
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  • PalustrisPalustris Posts: 4,307

    Definitely Medlar.

  • HCAHCA Posts: 129

    Sorry to disagree with the above but it is not Medlar, my best thought is Crataegus x lavallei.  The fruits are normally quite large for a Hawthorn (up to 1in across) and the autumn colour can be good.  It is a hybrid of rather unknown origin.

  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,355

    Interesting - and I can certainly see where you're coming from. The leaves are so un-hawthorn like that I would never have thought of that. However, the flower pictures of the medlar look closer to what I remember than the hawthorn ones do. I'll try to pop out and have another look at it today if I get a chance, see if it's developed. 

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    - Cicero
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,139

    I've been researching Crataegus recently, and there are many with un-lobed leaves.

    Have a look here http://www.crown-nursery.co.uk/products/ornamental-and-native-trees/a-e/#C

    You'll need to scroll down a bit.  Crataegus x lavallei looks a definite possibility image


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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,888

    I used to live in a house which had an avenue of medlar trees, some over 100 years old. Never tried eating them though.

    Devon.
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