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Succulent ID's please:)

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I picked up a pot of succulents and cacti in a charity shop yesterday and would like to know if anyone can identify 2 of the plants for me?
They are very small!
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The first pic looks like a sempervivum (house leek), no idea on the other, sorry
Might be wrong though
I collect Sempervivums and I don't think it is one (I may be wrong too!
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I may have to let them all grow a bit to see what size they get to.
Bother
They look like mine though
As I said, am probably wrong
Am not quite so great at the plant ids 
There are so many ........... try this site http://www.drought-smart-plants.com/succulent-plant-identification.html#axzz3hXQZR5RV
Good luck
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