I love history. I wish I could spend a week in every 5 years of human existence. I'd love to be able to see the whole of the uk in William the conqueror was about. Can you imagine the wildlife
Zoomer you have my sympathy for what it's worth. Must be very unsettling.
I think from what you've said the neighbour does have mental health issues.
Social services will not discuss him with you even if he is on their books.
Sectioning under the Mental Health Act can only be done as a temporary measure if 2 G.P's agree that the person is a danger to themselves or others.
The council and the police will try not to get involved if the person is mentally ill.
In your position I would contact a mental health charity such as MIND, who can advise on best course of action and maybe ways around the problem..but do it as a concerned neighbour not as an upset one or you won't get help The neighbour might already be known to them and they can refer to appropriate services, you and I cannot.
If the neighbour has stopped banging on door after police intervention I would say it isn't a dementia issue, but maybe someone who hasn't been diagnosed or fails to take medication for other m h issues.
I'm not being a goody 2 shoes, just trying to help as this was my area of work for 20yrs.
Thanks for all the responses, it's very reasuring.
You've given me lots of idea's, recording is certainly a good plan and I'm happy to tell him what I'm doing. Will need to get a little recorder but thats not a problem. Think I'll also get a lock put on the garden gate too.
We are both owner's so no landlord invloved. Keeping a record of the incidents is a good idea and as I've no no immediate plans to move, complaining to the council and logging incidents with the police will at least give him the messaage I'm not prepared to accept his unreasonable behaviour.
Don't think it will be resolved overnight though but I'm at the point were I'll try anything so will save your responses. I'll goggle MIND too to get advise, I don't want to make him worse.
Over the years he has annoyed other neighbours, and doesn't like children, he would regularly chase away a group which played football outside our houses or take their ball if it went in his garden.
In the end it was more fun for the children to play knock a door run with him than to play football.
As long as you intend staying there for a long time Zoomer, then it's OK to go ahead with any complaint. I know that you have to disclose any disputes with neighbours these days if you go to sell.
I wish you luck and hope that you can get some peace, otherwise it's not much fun being in the garden is it. I hate it when I am forced indoors because of inconsiderate neighbours. Not a problem at the moment as it's too hot for me.
The disclosure bit has always put me off complaining, if I did move it would be for a bigger garden and smaller house.
One of the nicer things is he doesn't cause problems if there are visitors or during the week if I'm on holiday and at home becuase he never knows when I'm off work. I'm at home next week but got loads planned, some gardening days, friends calling and going out for the most part.
He's a crafty b.... isn't he. Only does it when no-one else around. Could use whatever it is these days and listen to music through headphones. Have asked son to sort that out for me so, when it is a bit cooler, I can work/sit in the garden without the constant chinese torture.
Zoomer it does sound that the neighbour is calculating then, rather than 'unhinged' - for want of a better word. I'd certainly try recording him (or pretending to) and tell him calmly you're going to do that as you find his behaviour unacceptable and intolerable. It may be enough to scare him off. The fact that he stopped the noise when your friends spoke to the police etc shows that he realised you weren't going to be intimidated by him.
Good luck. Let us know how you get on.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Zoomer, there's me advising you to record the unwanted abuse but I hadn't thought of doing it myself with the dogs! Was too difficult to try to 'paper' record it. Good luck.
Zoomer, are you on your own? Some blokes get a kick out of doing this to women who live on their own, as they see them as an easy target (no partner to go around and 'sort them out').
Many years ago, when I lived as a student, myself and my then partner were renting a house in a lovely village, it wasn't a typical student rent (although my partner was working), we found out through the letting agent, that if the guy started bugging me, we HAD to report it to the police. The reason? The lass who owned the house had been insulted, propositioned, verbally abused and generally her life had been made unbearable by the boor next door. When her partner went around to 'remonstrate' with him, a fight had ensued and the neighbour who started it all went to the police to prosecute her boyfriend for the compensation he'd get. Unfortunately for him, they'd logged all of his provocative behaviour, and they were waiting for a court date, but had been advised to leave the house (hence renting it to ensure the mortgage was paid), until the issues had been setttled.
We got to know the outcome, the guy was a serial annoyer, he'd do it until a party snapped and beat him up, then he'd sue for compensation. Of course, there was a record of this, so when my landlord took him to court, and had the evidence of the other guy being a prat, and doing this on several occaisons, he didn't get away with it. He was given a restraining order (meaning HE had to move out when she moved back in), ordered to pay HER compensation, and given a suspended sentence, meaning if he did it to ANYONE in the next two years, it would be go straight to jail, do not pass go and do not collect £200.
So there is hope, just keep logging his behaviour, it might even be the same chap we're talking about, so be on your guard, and whatever you do, don't resort to violence, otherwise you might end up paying him for the pleasure of beating him up.
Apologies for the long post, but thought I'd let you know there are people who either make a living or can go on lovely long holidays by being a-holes and occaisionally being given a good hiding.
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I love history. I wish I could spend a week in every 5 years of human existence. I'd love to be able to see the whole of the uk in William the conqueror was about. Can you imagine the wildlife
Zoomer you have my sympathy for what it's worth. Must be very unsettling.
I think from what you've said the neighbour does have mental health issues.
Social services will not discuss him with you even if he is on their books.
Sectioning under the Mental Health Act can only be done as a temporary measure if 2 G.P's agree that the person is a danger to themselves or others.
The council and the police will try not to get involved if the person is mentally ill.
In your position I would contact a mental health charity such as MIND, who can advise on best course of action and maybe ways around the problem..but do it as a concerned neighbour not as an upset one or you won't get help
The neighbour might already be known to them and they can refer to appropriate services, you and I cannot.
If the neighbour has stopped banging on door after police intervention I would say it isn't a dementia issue, but maybe someone who hasn't been diagnosed or fails to take medication for other m h issues.
I'm not being a goody 2 shoes, just trying to help as this was my area of work for 20yrs.
Thanks for all the responses, it's very reasuring.
You've given me lots of idea's, recording is certainly a good plan and I'm happy to tell him what I'm doing. Will need to get a little recorder but thats not a problem. Think I'll also get a lock put on the garden gate too.
We are both owner's so no landlord invloved. Keeping a record of the incidents is a good idea and as I've no no immediate plans to move, complaining to the council and logging incidents with the police will at least give him the messaage I'm not prepared to accept his unreasonable behaviour.
Don't think it will be resolved overnight though but I'm at the point were I'll try anything so will save your responses. I'll goggle MIND too to get advise, I don't want to make him worse.
Over the years he has annoyed other neighbours, and doesn't like children, he would regularly chase away a group which played football outside our houses or take their ball if it went in his garden.
In the end it was more fun for the children to play knock a door run with him than to play football.
As long as you intend staying there for a long time Zoomer, then it's OK to go ahead with any complaint. I know that you have to disclose any disputes with neighbours these days if you go to sell.
I wish you luck and hope that you can get some peace, otherwise it's not much fun being in the garden is it. I hate it when I am forced indoors because of inconsiderate neighbours. Not a problem at the moment as it's too hot for me.
The disclosure bit has always put me off complaining, if I did move it would be for a bigger garden and smaller house.
One of the nicer things is he doesn't cause problems if there are visitors or during the week if I'm on holiday and at home becuase he never knows when I'm off work. I'm at home next week but got loads planned, some gardening days, friends calling and going out for the most part
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He's a crafty b.... isn't he. Only does it when no-one else around. Could use whatever it is these days and listen to music through headphones.
Have asked son to sort that out for me so, when it is a bit cooler, I can work/sit in the garden without the constant chinese torture.
Have a good week.
Zoomer it does sound that the neighbour is calculating then, rather than 'unhinged' - for want of a better word. I'd certainly try recording him (or pretending to) and tell him calmly you're going to do that as you find his behaviour unacceptable and intolerable. It may be enough to scare him off. The fact that he stopped the noise when your friends spoke to the police etc shows that he realised you weren't going to be intimidated by him.
Good luck. Let us know how you get on.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Can't imagine nothing happening this week, will let you know how things go. I'm off to get a tape recorder.
Zoomer, there's me advising you to record the unwanted abuse but I hadn't thought of doing it myself with the dogs! Was too difficult to try to 'paper' record it. Good luck.
Zoomer, are you on your own? Some blokes get a kick out of doing this to women who live on their own, as they see them as an easy target (no partner to go around and 'sort them out').
Many years ago, when I lived as a student, myself and my then partner were renting a house in a lovely village, it wasn't a typical student rent (although my partner was working), we found out through the letting agent, that if the guy started bugging me, we HAD to report it to the police. The reason? The lass who owned the house had been insulted, propositioned, verbally abused and generally her life had been made unbearable by the boor next door. When her partner went around to 'remonstrate' with him, a fight had ensued and the neighbour who started it all went to the police to prosecute her boyfriend for the compensation he'd get. Unfortunately for him, they'd logged all of his provocative behaviour, and they were waiting for a court date, but had been advised to leave the house (hence renting it to ensure the mortgage was paid), until the issues had been setttled.
We got to know the outcome, the guy was a serial annoyer, he'd do it until a party snapped and beat him up, then he'd sue for compensation. Of course, there was a record of this, so when my landlord took him to court, and had the evidence of the other guy being a prat, and doing this on several occaisons, he didn't get away with it. He was given a restraining order (meaning HE had to move out when she moved back in), ordered to pay HER compensation, and given a suspended sentence, meaning if he did it to ANYONE in the next two years, it would be go straight to jail, do not pass go and do not collect £200.
So there is hope, just keep logging his behaviour, it might even be the same chap we're talking about, so be on your guard, and whatever you do, don't resort to violence, otherwise you might end up paying him for the pleasure of beating him up.
Apologies for the long post, but thought I'd let you know there are people who either make a living or can go on lovely long holidays by being a-holes and occaisionally being given a good hiding.