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Plant ID please?

turmericturmeric Posts: 830

Hello all, I took some photos today of shrubs that I'm not sure about. To avoid confusion I'll only post one plant at a time.  The first is a photo of a plant I mentioned in a previous post because it reminded me of rhubarb.  Does anyone know what this is : 

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 sorry it's rotated my pics and I can't correct it?  Many thanks.

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  • turmericturmeric Posts: 830

    This is plant no. 2. It's a large shrub/tree (?) about 8ft wide by 12ft high : 

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     I'll stop there to avoid confusion, but I have two more plants for later.  Any suggestions on the above 2 would be brilliant, thank you. 

  • cathy43cathy43 Posts: 373

    Is 2 some sort of elder bush?

  • turmericturmeric Posts: 830

    The berries are white.  I think elder berries are very dark?

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445

    I think the bush is a viburnum, the berries will turn colour, Viburnum opulus maybe.

    and the other, one of the umbellifers. Can we see the top of the stalks please?



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • HippophaeHippophae Posts: 154

    I concur with nutcutlet. Second Guelder rose and the first looks like hogweed (Heracleum sphondylium) (be careful not to touch or try to remove it without wearing gloves).

  • turmericturmeric Posts: 830

    Sorry for the delay in coming back to you Nutcutlet, I was exhausted and went to bed early!  The top of the stalk just has another large leaf (no flowers yet).  It looks like a smaller version of rhubarb and without any red/pinkness. There were quite a few of them and they took a right heave ho to get a few out.

    The bush could be a viburnum/guelder rose but I've been in the garden since May and not seen any flowers just the berries developing so wouldn't I have seen spring or early summer flowers before the berries? But I do agree the leaf is very similar.

  • cathy43cathy43 Posts: 373

    check out Sambucus gaudichaudiana for the second one, but still not sure

  • turmericturmeric Posts: 830

    No, unfortunately the leaf is all wrong.  It really does match the leaf shape of the viburnum opulus, I'm just surprised not to have seen the flowers before the berries.  It's just it's getting very big and coming over the lawn and I'm not sure how hard I can prune it back as the branches are quite bare below the initial leaf coverage.  I'm afraid if I take of the necessary 18 inches or so all over it may not resprout and I certainly don't want to lose it - eek!

  • turmericturmeric Posts: 830

    Nutcutlet I think you're on to something with the umbellifer suggestion.  Just googled it and the stem and leaf are very similar to common hogweed.  Many thanks for that.

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445

    Yes I think so. I see far to much of that in my gardenimage

    Definitely an umbellifer, you can tell from the stems and joints and most probably hogweed (but not giant hogweed of horror stories fame)



    In the sticks near Peterborough
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