@Gardening Grandma I have a question, this thread was started 2 months ago and died a very quick death after 3 days. Where did you find it and why did you want to resuscitate it?
just looked at the survey (how old are you and why dose it matter so much to you) surveys like this get posted in my spam folder all the time and i just delete them on the other hand i do have too argee with nutcutlet.
Joslow, I just happened on the discussion - and you are right, I did revive it and probably was foolish to do so. I am no relation to the student, as far as I know.( I suppose it could be some second cousin twice removed.)However, I used to be a teacher and have sympathy for young students who are struggling to make their way and don't have much life experience. I guess I reacted - and then spent a couple of hours regretting it.
My feeling was that a third year (i.e. at least 21) law student ought by now to have better social/life skills than those demonstrated by the manner of the request, and it would do him/her no favours not to point that out. If he/she then has a better understanding of how to approach a stranger and get them on their side, it will be a lesson well learnt.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Dovefromabove, you were not rude and I should not have generalised. However, I can (just) remember what it was like to be 20 and a new graduate, and I'd have been mystified by your comment. He or she communicated the way most students communicate, with a 'please' and 'grateful' and a casual approach. But since my impulsive response was no better than other people's, I should probably shut up.
I was a very mature student not so very long ago, my daughter gradutated last year and my daughter in law has just finished her MSc.
I'm afraid to say that to 'communicate the way most students communicate' just will not do any more - life is tough out here in the big wide world and good social/writing skills and an understanding of how to get the best out of people will help hugely towards success, particularly for a law student.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Dovefromabove, your name reminds me of the Holy Spirit. This reminds me in turn of the need for generosity and it is the lack of generosity to this student that riled me. But perhaps it is now time to let this topic rest, as maybe I should have done in the first place.
Before it goes to sleep-two points- I notice that crimstudent never popped back to comment-either thanking everybody who did fill in the survey-we don't know-or to say sorry and throw in a plea-would have been nice
And as for manners on this forum it constantly frustrates me that so many people are happy to ask a question-get free advice based on experience -but then a certain number never come back to say thank-you or tell us it worked -not a sausage
Quite often I can look back when a question appears at a posting history-there was one in the last couple of days has never said thank-you once and from the notes is one of the "older " generation
I doubt most of us would go in a shop or a restaurant and get good service would not acknowledge that-yet here it is given away.
So perhaps a little bit of manners and politeness is needed everywhere
I guess from the initial post that "crimstudent" probably used the same text when putting his/her request on several forums, without considering the fact that he/she would need to adapt it to suit each one.
Even if he/she gets fewer responses than he/she was hoping for, at least there's a possibility that he/she might learn something about needing to do that - as well as re-visiting each site to check and acknowledge any replies. Not the initial object of the request, perhaps, but another (different) lesson learned, maybe...............!
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@Gardening Grandma I have a question, this thread was started 2 months ago and died a very quick death after 3 days. Where did you find it and why did you want to resuscitate it?
just looked at the survey (how old are you and why dose it matter so much to you) surveys like this get posted in my spam folder all the time and i just delete them on the other hand i do have too argee with nutcutlet.
Joslow, I just happened on the discussion - and you are right, I did revive it and probably was foolish to do so. I am no relation to the student, as far as I know.( I suppose it could be some second cousin twice removed.)However, I used to be a teacher and have sympathy for young students who are struggling to make their way and don't have much life experience. I guess I reacted - and then spent a couple of hours regretting it.
My feeling was that a third year (i.e. at least 21) law student ought by now to have better social/life skills than those demonstrated by the manner of the request, and it would do him/her no favours not to point that out. If he/she then has a better understanding of how to approach a stranger and get them on their side, it will be a lesson well learnt.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Dovefromabove, you were not rude and I should not have generalised. However, I can (just) remember what it was like to be 20 and a new graduate, and I'd have been mystified by your comment. He or she communicated the way most students communicate, with a 'please' and 'grateful' and a casual approach. But since my impulsive response was no better than other people's, I should probably shut up.
I was a very mature student not so very long ago, my daughter gradutated last year and my daughter in law has just finished her MSc.
I'm afraid to say that to 'communicate the way most students communicate' just will not do any more - life is tough out here in the big wide world and good social/writing skills and an understanding of how to get the best out of people will help hugely towards success, particularly for a law student.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
My question is still how did you find this old thread?
I just browsed for something interesting, joslow.
Dovefromabove, your name reminds me of the Holy Spirit. This reminds me in turn of the need for generosity and it is the lack of generosity to this student that riled me. But perhaps it is now time to let this topic rest, as maybe I should have done in the first place.
Before it goes to sleep-two points- I notice that crimstudent never popped back to comment-either thanking everybody who did fill in the survey-we don't know-or to say sorry and throw in a plea-would have been nice
And as for manners on this forum it constantly frustrates me that so many people are happy to ask a question-get free advice based on experience -but then a certain number never come back to say thank-you or tell us it worked -not a sausage
Quite often I can look back when a question appears at a posting history-there was one in the last couple of days has never said thank-you once and from the notes is one of the "older " generation
I doubt most of us would go in a shop or a restaurant and get good service would not acknowledge that-yet here it is given away.
So perhaps a little bit of manners and politeness is needed everywhere
Finished ranting-for now
I guess from the initial post that "crimstudent" probably used the same text when putting his/her request on several forums, without considering the fact that he/she would need to adapt it to suit each one.
Even if he/she gets fewer responses than he/she was hoping for, at least there's a possibility that he/she might learn something about needing to do that - as well as re-visiting each site to check and acknowledge any replies. Not the initial object of the request, perhaps, but another (different) lesson learned, maybe...............!