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growing grapes
siskin42
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I have recently had some lovely bunches of grape with thick green stems to the bunches. My question is. has any one been able to grow a vine from the grape remnant stems from the bunch. If so how is this done. siskin
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I should have said this before. I have two good wine grape vines in my garden . What i want to do is grow a seedless eating grape. A chap on u tube states that he is growing a vine from the stalks from a bunch and shows what he claims to be the start of roots. I have tried to do this in several ways without success. I have tried rooting pounder .and also soaking stalks in water for a few weeks . If he says he has is doing it who am i to disagree. I wish i new the truth to this one . Thanks for the feed back. Siskin As a matter of interest i have planted seeds from Globe grapes , its been a month and nothing has shown yet and may i say they were in the fridge for three months. any ideas how long dose it take to germinate grape seed
Even if you do get a viable cutting from the material you have (and personally I'm sorry but I doubt that you will) it's unlikely that it will be a variety suitable to grow in the UK climate - almost if not all grapes bought in shops here are imported. No harm in trying it as an experiment but if you want a seedless eating grape then I would buy a vine of the right variety such as Interlaken which will grow in a sheltered spot outside in the UK, or in a cold greenhouse http://www.readsnursery.co.uk/products/Grape-Interlaken.html .
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I would go with what Dove and Phillipa have said. Bit if you really just want to have a go from a what will happen point of view, then why not.
I was thinking about your cuttings, someone on another thread mentioned you can propogate apples from some of the peel, it made me wonder if you could slice some of the skin from the stalk without taking any of the woody bit, as your cutting material. The rest im afraid would be trial and error, im sure growing lights were mentioned, and possibly rooting hormone???? Really not sure, please post if you have any success
Look up vine eye cuttings. It is basically a very short cutting with just one bud and is less successful than using a longer hardwood cutting. However if the stalks you have don't have any buds this won't work.
HI to all, I have taken stock what all of you have said but still cant get it out of my dim head. common sense should be telling me not to bother . Many other plants can been grown from a leaf or bark scrapes usually in lab conditions but not to my knowledge fruit except tomatoes ?
I like the idea of grafting a bud on my existing vines but to do this i have to find someone who has a large eating grape growing under cover. I have an eating grape growing along with wine grapes but the eater is smaller than the wine grape and full of seed. Cuttings are very easy to grow taking a hard wood cutting with three or four buds and sticking it a few inches in the ground or pot.
If i am ever successful at this grape growing from a stalk i will be back if only to say Yipeeeeeeee
I have grown quite a few grapes from hardwood cuttings and do not think it possible from a greenwood stalk. The former is easy, rooting compound or baking powder put somewhere sheltered and wait. I await other comments on the stalk success, if there is any. however trying never did any harm, I just have better ways of wasting my time. Pass the whiskey.
Thanks for all your comments. There is an American woman who collects rare grape from cuttings and grafts on her old grape vines. when these have taken she cuts back the old vine leaving her with a new rare vine. I think i will give that one a try as i have two different vines to play with. Happy Gardening All
I think it will depend on what your grape bunch looks like. If the plant (cut) end is just a straight stem then you have none of the growing stem of the plant, so no probability of a bud eye. If the plant end is a "T" then you have a section of plant stem so could have a viable eye. When grapes are exhibited at shows they always have a section of the growing stem to suspend them by.
Thanks trillium, Yes i absolutely agree to what you say and is a must to have any luck . I will try a few methods of grafting with these vines. I have had some luck with mixed grafting peaches plums and apricots as last years grafting are now starting show signs that they have taken.the plum graft is not so prominent yet as the other two are many thanks