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Climbing rose roots and gas pipes - bad match?

NinaPrudenceNinaPrudence Posts: 4
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Hi there, 

 

I'm planning to plant a couple of climbing roses in front of my house, and on the back in a small patio. My choices so far go to the Nahema for the back, and Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler for the front. 

The Himalayan has then to grow climbing on supports on the wall of the house, my worry is that where I can plant it, it would be either very close to rain pipes going to the ground, or the gas pipes coming into my house. Are the roots going to adjust to the existing pipes or are they strong enough to damage them? I'd like to avoid a big bad kabooomimage

 

thanks!

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  • Dave MorganDave Morgan Posts: 3,123

    Rose roots aren't strong enough to cause any damage to pipes. Try to train over the drain pipes rather than behind them, it makes pruning and training easier.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,136

    I wouldn't worry about the roots - but Paul's Himalayan is a massive plant - far too big to grow on the wall of any house - it will become very heavy and I doubt that any wires or trellis could support it - it is best suited for growing into the canpies of large trees. 

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     Paul's Himalayan Musk image

     

    Can I suggest you have a look at the climber Rosa 'New Dawn' https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/details?plantid=1697  - a similar colour, a beautiful perfume, and much more suitable for a house wall.


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • NinaPrudenceNinaPrudence Posts: 4

    Wow, I knew the Himalaya could get big, but that's massive. Thanks for your responses, and for bringing my feet back to the ground


    I still want the Nahema in the back, hopefully it wont die like the one I tried in the front, don't know what happened there…

    Have you any suggestion for a climbing rose with the following specs: nice (also strong) perfume, can grow on trellis with a full nice body but not too bushy as the side walk is not that deep, so something that might grow and be trained to stay next to the wall, no preferences of colors but would be nice if it could bloom for several months (or shall I start another tread for that?)

    cheers.

     

     

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,136

    Have you looked at my link to Rosa New Dawn?

    If that's not what you want try this site http://www.classicroses.co.uk/  There's a helpful search facility down the left hand side image


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • NinaPrudenceNinaPrudence Posts: 4

    Yes, I've looked at it and it looks very pretty. Thanks for the other link, too. I might go for something red on the front and keep the dreamy looking plants for the backimage

     

  • Dave MorganDave Morgan Posts: 3,123

    Which way does the wall face?

  • Lily PillyLily Pilly Posts: 3,845

    Paul's Himalian planted over my gate onto yard and allowed to go over garage roof. It is four years old and gets moderate pruning. I would never put it on a wall. Rambling rector covers the gazebo and gets same treatment

    i have gone for the old moss roses this year, we will see how they do on supports.

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    Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
    A A Milne
  • NinaPrudenceNinaPrudence Posts: 4

    Hi Dave, 

     

    Plant A (front side) is facing east/south east, gets a lot of sun in the summer mornings until 2-3pm. The other, plant B, is in a more sheltered place is in a rather close patio, I was planning in the corner facing south/south west, gets sun between noon and 6 pm and gets pretty hot in terms of temperature. For plant B is still have to remove some tiles in the corner and I don't know what type of soil I will find but I guess it will partly sandy partly clay.

    thanks for all the help, and the beautiful pics!

  • lmwlmw Posts: 9

    I'd suggest for the back that you go back to Beales, and select a height, and then tick the box for shady locations or north wa??ls. Roses often find morning sun more satisfactory then afternoon, so if you pick something from a group that does well in a more difficult location, you should be on to a winner.  I'd also like to point you in the direction of another useful site, http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php  so that when you've picked a likely contender, you can get more detailed information and photos of it.

     

  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,545

    For beside the path you could use either Zephirine Drouhin or  Kathleen Harrop, old roses with a lovely perfume, perpetual flowering, not too vigorous and thornless. One is a deep pink, the other is a pretty pale pink.

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