The spraying of wheat etc with Roundup isn't usual practice but is done in certain circumstances.
The wheat has already stopped growing and is drying off at that stage so the Roundup doesn't affect it's growth.
Not a practice I'm enthusiastic about, but I know farmers who say that the resulting lack of weeds etc in the harvested grain improves storage quality etc.
I've eaten Ground elder in the distant past - we steamed it and incorporated it in mashed potatoes, like a sort of champ, and also in a minestrone-type soup. Quite edible but not an outstanding flavour, but my reasoning was that if it became aware that we actually wanted it to grow it was more likely to do the opposite
However, we moved house before the trial came to an end!
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Outdoor girl. I rather agree with you, tho I do use it occasionally. I receive emails concerning monsanto's activities around the world, re seeds for small farmers, taking poor third world counties to court, suing defenceless states, mostly about their promoting of pesticides killing bees and other insects. Totally frightening.
Outdoor Girl, those of us on here who use glyphosate are sensible and careful about how we do so. Like others here, I wouldn't dream of spraying it around my fruit & veggies. Having read quite a lot of stuff on the internet this afternoon, but trying to avoid the "pseudo-science" newspaper articles, I'm upset that I can't help eating glyphosate residues in my food (just as I can't avoid the other undesirables which get in there) - but that won't stop me continuing to use glyphosate with care on the japanese knotweed threatening my garden from next door. What alternative do I have? I too am very anti Monsanto, but I wouldn't describe glyphosate as an "appalling chemical" when used correctly.
Anyone depressed by alarmist "sciency" articles in the press? I recommend "Bad Science" by Ben Goldacre
Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
In a report, just released a few days ago (see: http://www.testbiotech.org/en/node/1101), I fond this: "Recent publications show that so far the risks of glyphosate have been grossly underestimated. This is a huge problem, because residues from spraying are, for example, widely found in all sorts of food and therefore lead to continuous consumer exposure." " studies showed a significant effect on the hormonal system in mammals. Further, a recent study indicated for the first time that the learning behaviour of bees can be affected by glyphosate. All these risks were classified as irrelevant by the German authorities..." "Widespread heavy use of glyphosate, has led to huge problems with weeds that have become resistant to the herbicide, especially in countries which grow genetically engineered crops. The consequences have been an increased use of glyphosate and increasing residues in food and feed produced from crops such as genetically modified soybeans."
My advice: be very careful when using roundup, try to avoid it as much as possible if you care about the bees and our own future.
It all depends whose research you read - TestBiotech claim to be independent, but have strong connections with Greenpeace who, whilst I have a great deal of respect for much of what they do, can hardly claim to be a disinterested party.
I'd be interested to read of any research done by the John Innes Centre into harmful residues of glyphosate in food, if anyone knows of any?
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
''I Have been a wheat farmer for 50 yrs and one wheat production practice that is very common is applying the herbicide Roundup (glyposate) just prior to harvest. Roundup is licensed for preharvest weed control. Monsanto, the manufacturer of Roundup claims that application to plants at over 30% kernel moisture result in roundup uptake by the plant into the kernels. Farmers like this practice because Roundup kills the wheat plant allowing an earlier harvest.
A wheat field often ripens unevenly, thus applying Roundup preharvest evens up the greener parts of the field with the more mature. The result is on the less mature areas Roundup is translocated into the kernels and eventually harvested as such.
This practice is not licensed. Farmers mistakenly call it “dessication.” Consumers eating products made from wheat flour are undoubtedly consuming minute amounts of Roundup. An interesting aside, malt barley which is made into beer is not acceptable in the marketplace if it has been sprayed with preharvest Roundup. Lentils and peas are not accepted in the market place if it was sprayed with preharvest roundup….. but wheat is ok.. This farming practice greatly concerns me and it should further concern consumers of wheat products.''
As FAIRBRJU’s original question regards the use of our product Roundup, please allow us to participate in the discussion and hopefully provide some useful answers. You will find on our website a dedicated factsheet on how to get rid of ground elder: http://www.roundup-garden.com/faqs/how-do-i-kill-ground-elder. Regarding the question of whether Roundup persists in the ground, Roundup is only active in plants and is inactivated on contact with the soil. It is then broken down by soil microorganisms. We recommend that you leave treated weeds for about 7 days before digging or cultivating the soil to allow Roundup to move to the roots of the weed.
I do use Roundup, it does the job and does it well. But with all the stories there's a feeling of 'should I be using this' every time I get the sprayer out.
It's hard to know what else I'd do with weeds emerging through an ancient cracking up tarmac drive.
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The spraying of wheat etc with Roundup isn't usual practice but is done in certain circumstances.
The wheat has already stopped growing and is drying off at that stage so the Roundup doesn't affect it's growth.
Not a practice I'm enthusiastic about, but I know farmers who say that the resulting lack of weeds etc in the harvested grain improves storage quality etc.
I've eaten Ground elder in the distant past - we steamed it and incorporated it in mashed potatoes, like a sort of champ, and also in a minestrone-type soup. Quite edible but not an outstanding flavour, but my reasoning was that if it became aware that we actually wanted it to grow it was more likely to do the opposite
However, we moved house before the trial came to an end!
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I am dismayed by some comments here. Glyphosate is an appalling chemical. If is not sprayed on wheat, then why are there glyphosate residues in bread?
UK has high levels of glyphosate residues on food. Glyphosate has been linked to some of our worst diseases.
Don't buy it.
Outdoor girl. I rather agree with you, tho I do use it occasionally. I receive emails concerning monsanto's activities around the world, re seeds for small farmers, taking poor third world counties to court, suing defenceless states, mostly about their promoting of pesticides killing bees and other insects. Totally frightening.
Outdoor Girl, those of us on here who use glyphosate are sensible and careful about how we do so. Like others here, I wouldn't dream of spraying it around my fruit & veggies. Having read quite a lot of stuff on the internet this afternoon, but trying to avoid the "pseudo-science" newspaper articles, I'm upset that I can't help eating glyphosate residues in my food (just as I can't avoid the other undesirables which get in there) - but that won't stop me continuing to use glyphosate with care on the japanese knotweed threatening my garden from next door. What alternative do I have? I too am very anti Monsanto, but I wouldn't describe glyphosate as an "appalling chemical" when used correctly.
Anyone depressed by alarmist "sciency" articles in the press? I recommend "Bad Science" by Ben Goldacre
In a report, just released a few days ago (see: http://www.testbiotech.org/en/node/1101), I fond this: "Recent publications show that so far the risks of glyphosate have been grossly underestimated. This is a huge problem, because residues from spraying are, for example, widely found in all sorts of food and therefore lead to continuous consumer exposure."
" studies showed a significant effect on the hormonal system in mammals. Further, a recent study indicated for the first time that the learning behaviour of bees can be affected by glyphosate. All these risks were classified as irrelevant by the German authorities..."
"Widespread heavy use of glyphosate, has led to huge problems with weeds that have become resistant to the herbicide, especially in countries which grow genetically engineered crops. The consequences have been an increased use of glyphosate and increasing residues in food and feed produced from crops such as genetically modified soybeans."
My advice: be very careful when using roundup, try to avoid it as much as possible if you care about the bees and our own future.
It all depends whose research you read - TestBiotech claim to be independent, but have strong connections with Greenpeace who, whilst I have a great deal of respect for much of what they do, can hardly claim to be a disinterested party.
I'd be interested to read of any research done by the John Innes Centre into harmful residues of glyphosate in food, if anyone knows of any?
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
''I Have been a wheat farmer for 50 yrs and one wheat production practice that is very common is applying the herbicide Roundup (glyposate) just prior to harvest. Roundup is licensed for preharvest weed control. Monsanto, the manufacturer of Roundup claims that application to plants at over 30% kernel moisture result in roundup uptake by the plant into the kernels. Farmers like this practice because Roundup kills the wheat plant allowing an earlier harvest.
A wheat field often ripens unevenly, thus applying Roundup preharvest evens up the greener parts of the field with the more mature. The result is on the less mature areas Roundup is translocated into the kernels and eventually harvested as such.
This practice is not licensed. Farmers mistakenly call it “dessication.” Consumers eating products made from wheat flour are undoubtedly consuming minute amounts of Roundup. An interesting aside, malt barley which is made into beer is not acceptable in the marketplace if it has been sprayed with preharvest Roundup. Lentils and peas are not accepted in the market place if it was sprayed with preharvest roundup….. but wheat is ok.. This farming practice greatly concerns me and it should further concern consumers of wheat products.''
Quote from a farming magazine.
That is truly terrible. In what countries is it allowable tho as wheat is traded I dont suppose it matters.
Dear Gardeners,
As FAIRBRJU’s original question regards the use of our product Roundup, please allow us to participate in the discussion and hopefully provide some useful answers. You will find on our website a dedicated factsheet on how to get rid of ground elder: http://www.roundup-garden.com/faqs/how-do-i-kill-ground-elder. Regarding the question of whether Roundup persists in the ground, Roundup is only active in plants and is inactivated on contact with the soil. It is then broken down by soil microorganisms. We recommend that you leave treated weeds for about 7 days before digging or cultivating the soil to allow Roundup to move to the roots of the weed.
Some Gardeners expressed concerns over possible health consequences of glyphosate. We would like to take this opportunity to bring to your attention to the fact that glyphosate has been assessed and approved by competent regulatory authorities throughout the world. You may be interested in having a look at their reports, available on this page: http://www.glyphosate.eu/regulatory-documents/regulatory-documents. You will also find an article addressing directly some of the questions your raised here: http://www.glyphosate.eu/answers-key-questions/does-glyphosate-pose-risks-human-health.
We hope you find this information useful.
Kind regards,
The Roundup Team
Thanks Roundup people.
I think you should be allowed to have your say.
I do use Roundup, it does the job and does it well. But with all the stories there's a feeling of 'should I be using this' every time I get the sprayer out.
It's hard to know what else I'd do with weeds emerging through an ancient cracking up tarmac drive.
In the sticks near Peterborough