Hi Richard, I understood that the viticella group had smaller flowers and therefore my clematis could belong to that group - the flowers on my clematis are only 5cm in diameter and seemed to be too small for the large flowered ones which had been suggested. I think I may not have explained myself properly!
David explained why it could be that my clematis has small flowers earlier in this thread if it is HF Young...
However I am open to those who know better than me. It does look like 'Justa' except as I said the end of the petals on my plant seem more rounded than the pictures I have seen of Justa...are the size of the flowers on Justa the same as mine?
Well now doesn't that tick all the boxes!!! Flower size, Jojo on the other thread said that Aldi and Lidl used the same supplier, the first picture looks exactly like mine - the buds are "justa" like that
Thank you very much for taking the trouble you have to help, I really appreciate it
This looks like a Russian gaillardia to me. They aren't widely grown or available in the UK. Where did you get your plant?
David Hurrion
Deputy Editor, Gardeners' World Magazine
I am not sure about that pom pom type flower being gailardia, they were just a packet of free seeds from a mag, I have lots of them, red orange and yellow, I assumed they were an annual.
They havent got that silvery foliage like gailardia.
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.
David, thanks very much for your very prompt answer. I should have known it was a cosmos. I had a gorgeous deep purple one in the garden last year. I was a bit thrown by the leaves as previous and other cosmos in the garden have a more delicate dill-like leaf.
Hello Daintiness, more news on the clematis front! We've had confirmation direct from Lidl this afternoon that the variety is, indeed, 'Justa', as Richard had identified earlier.
For those not familiar with the variety, it flowers July to September, and reaches a height of around 2m. It's a great, hardy variety and an easy one to prune, too – just chop it down anytime between December and February, before new season growth begins, to leave 20-30cm of growth above ground.
As part of our delving into this identification teaser, we've learned that clematis-fanciers are known as clematarians - or, better still, 'clemaniacs'! Well, now we know!
Wow - my little clematis has kept everyone busy! Thank you for your trouble and for the care advice too.
I have learnt a lot through this quest not only the variety but that clematis flowers don't have petals. This has led me to learn a new word - tepal (which looks like I can't spell petal)
Now I also know that Richard is a very well informed clematarian too.
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Daintiness, I suggested on an earlier thread that your clematis could be Justa.
You say it cannot be Justa because Justa is ' a viticella ' and they have smaller flowers.
Wrong, Justa is not ' a viticella ' it is a member of the Viticella Group, in which several cultivars have larger flowers.
I still cannot accept that even Lidl would sell HFYoung as a ' Summer Flowering Clematis '
HFYoung flower size 10 - 22 cms.
Richard Hodson, National Collection Holder, Clematis Viticella.
Hi Richard, I understood that the viticella group had smaller flowers and therefore my clematis could belong to that group - the flowers on my clematis are only 5cm in diameter and seemed to be too small for the large flowered ones which had been suggested.
I think I may not have explained myself properly! 
David explained why it could be that my clematis has small flowers earlier in this thread if it is HF Young...
However I am open to those who know better than me. It does look like 'Justa' except as I said the end of the petals on my plant seem more rounded than the pictures I have seen of Justa...are the size of the flowers on Justa the same as mine?
Compare your picture with the one from Westphal in Germany, the experts.
Also, clematis do not have petals.
Also, I have heard that Aldi are selling a range of 7 cheap clematis, including Hagley Hybrid and Justa,
Richard.
Forgot to mention, Justa flower size is 6 - 8 cms.
Richard.
Well now doesn't that tick all the boxes!!! Flower size, Jojo on the other thread said that Aldi and Lidl used the same supplier, the first picture looks exactly like mine - the buds are "justa" like that
Thank you very much for taking the trouble you have to help, I really appreciate it
I am not sure about that pom pom type flower being gailardia, they were just a packet of free seeds from a mag, I have lots of them, red orange and yellow, I assumed they were an annual.
They havent got that silvery foliage like gailardia.
David, thanks very much for your very prompt answer. I should have known it was a cosmos. I had a gorgeous deep purple one in the garden last year. I was a bit thrown by the leaves as previous and other cosmos in the garden have a more delicate dill-like leaf.
Hello Daintiness, more news on the clematis front! We've had confirmation direct from Lidl this afternoon that the variety is, indeed, 'Justa', as Richard had identified earlier.
For those not familiar with the variety, it flowers July to September, and reaches a height of around 2m. It's a great, hardy variety and an easy one to prune, too – just chop it down anytime between December and February, before new season growth begins, to leave 20-30cm of growth above ground.
As part of our delving into this identification teaser, we've learned that clematis-fanciers are known as clematarians - or, better still, 'clemaniacs'! Well, now we know!
Lucy
Editor, BBC Gardeners' World Magazine
I don't suppose that Lidl said they would put proper labels on their plants, did they?
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Wow - my little clematis has kept everyone busy! Thank you for your trouble and for the care advice too.
I have learnt a lot through this quest not only the variety but that clematis flowers don't have petals. This has led me to learn a new word - tepal (which looks like I can't spell petal)
Now I also know that Richard is a very well informed clematarian too.
Thanks to all