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Growing Roses

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  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,001

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    My new William Shakespeare, in a pot on the terrace, came out just in time for my garden party.

     

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • SalinoSalino Posts: 1,609

    ..such rich colours...very nice indeed...good scent to go with it..I hope..?

    ...I think there is a William Shakespeare 2000... in what way it differs, or is supposed to be an improvement on the original...I don't know... perhaps that's the one you've got...

  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,001

    Smells lovely, a David Austin rose. I think it is 2000, same thing.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • davids10davids10 Posts: 894

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    lawrence johnston- a single bloomer good here in reno-would probably be splendid in cooler weather. almost 30 yrs old and scandalously neglected for most of that time. was going to shovel prune it but massacred it instead-took out about 90%-the main canes were 6 in through-2 yrs later better than ever-a shattering rejuvenation that worked out 

  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,001

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    That is very helpful, David. I have 2 Mme Alfred Carrière, planted around 1992 which have very old, thick, woody stems with most of the flowering on top. Any low shoots they made were eaten by deer, so I never dared remove the oldest stems. Now the main flower garden is deer fenced, since 3 years ago, and they are starting to make strong lower growth. Can I, next Feb/March cut off the old stems (more like trunks!) without upsetting the roses?

    Photo is early March, before pruning, I did cut off most of one trunk. The other rose has fewer new stems.

     

     

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • davids10davids10 Posts: 894

    35C here today so lake tahoe beach today-when i was going to pull the rose i cut the main stems by half but then had 2nd thoughts. in late winter took them off completely. you might cut yours back and rub off any new growth on the old canes and then finish the job in march. the year after i did it the bloom on the remaining canes was incredible. looking at the lists of roses people have grown in the past made me think of ellen willmot, extremely rich edwardian lady who supposedly grew every rose then in cultivation. could it be done now or are there just too many?

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  • SalinoSalino Posts: 1,609

    ..almost impossible I would imagine...and you'd have to continually make room for more each year....I wouldn't fancy looking after them all..

    although the biggest rose garden in the world, Europa Rosarium at Sangerhausen, in old East Germany, has 75000 roses...of 8300 species...  

    ...like most other things these days...it's on You tube...

  • Matty2Matty2 Posts: 4,817

    Hiya

    Love roses

    Yarrow2 if you get this brochure/online or paper it tells you in more detail than DA the conditions certain roses will grow in. I have found it very useful. It also gives a perfume grading

    http://www.classicroses.co.uk/

    I have a lot some are not yet in bloom

    this is a DA one called Summer Song

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     and this one is an older variety climber called Handel (planted last autumn)

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  • BusyBBusyB Posts: 87

    Just a quick message to say thank you all for your advice. After lopping off the water damaged roses, I have a few new blooms that are looking far better.

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