Group1 they used to say if flowers before June don't prune they flower on last years growth, but can be pruned immediately after flowering but I find this tricky as mine also flower again later in year so I tend to just remove obvious dead bits.
I think someone who knows more about group 2,3 will explain how to treat them If not I'll have a go later.
If it flowers may, June and Sept, according to this it sounds like a group 2 which could narrow the ID down a bit. EDIT, just done a search for gen sik and it flowers MJS but is group 3 so that doesn't work with my above theory
This http://www.clematisnursery.com/Pruning.aspx gives General Sikorski in the equivalent of Group 1, whereas Taylors show him as being in Group 3. You think he's in Group 2 ..............
I still think you've got a General S.
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Can't find anything closer Dove, to me stripe looks more like Elsa but petal shape wrong for that one
I know mine is Group 1 as is the other that I'll be asking about when it opens. I do remember specifically buying early flowering, just name General S doesn't ring bells which usually happen when I'm prompted. Lot of water under the bridge since I bought them.
I so wish I hadn't had a rush of blood to the head and thrown the bag of plant labels when we moved.
MrsGarden I thought you might be onto something with the link to Taylors as I bought mine from a garden centre at Thrybergh, did wonder if they had been the supplier. Can't see what to me looks like mine, but some very nice ones. Shame I don't have anywhere for another.
All the pics of different sites look different anyway! One of mine apparently shows the stripe better if grown in semi shade, so various things may affect colour intensity and contrast??? It's all guess work!
Just had an idea ......... I bought Gen S because I couldn't get the one I wanted and it was the closest ........... let me just check something...........
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I think Sikorski too, but another possibility is Elsa Spath:
Thanks everyone but I don't think we've nailed it.
I should have said it's a Group 1 clematis. General, Eyers & Elsa are group2, see I have been paying attention to your answers
Elsa Spath pics I've seen have 8 petals and this only has 6.
Thanks for helping
Hi KEF,
Can I just butt in and ask a question please?
Im guessing from what you've said above there is a way to tell what group a clematis is without knowing the name?
Sorry I can't help with your id...
Victoria there are three pruning groups.
Group1 they used to say if flowers before June don't prune
they flower on last years growth, but can be pruned immediately after flowering but I find this tricky as mine also flower again later in year
so I tend to just remove obvious dead bits.
I think someone who knows more about group 2,3 will explain how to treat them
If not I'll have a go later.
That is interesting thank you
So the group is related to the time it flowers... That actually makes perfect sense re pruning!
Thank you
http://www.taylorsclematis.co.uk/Clematis-pruning.html
This explains pruning.
Didn't realise Taylors was so close to us KEF.
If it flowers may, June and Sept, according to this it sounds like a group 2 which could narrow the ID down a bit. EDIT, just done a search for gen sik and it flowers MJS but is group 3 so that doesn't work with my above theory
This http://www.clematisnursery.com/Pruning.aspx gives General Sikorski in the equivalent of Group 1, whereas Taylors show him as being in Group 3. You think he's in Group 2 ..............
I still think you've got a General S.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Can't find anything closer Dove, to me stripe looks more like Elsa but petal shape wrong for that one
I know mine is Group 1 as is the other that I'll be asking about when it opens. I do remember specifically buying early flowering, just name General S doesn't ring bells which usually happen when I'm prompted. Lot of water under the bridge since I bought them.
I so wish I hadn't had a rush of blood to the head and thrown the bag of plant labels when we moved.
MrsGarden I thought you might be onto something with the link to Taylors as I bought mine from a garden centre at Thrybergh, did wonder if they had been the supplier. Can't see what to me looks like mine, but some very nice ones. Shame I don't have anywhere for another.
If you need to buy another KEF I've got room
All the pics of different sites look different anyway! One of mine apparently shows the stripe better if grown in semi shade, so various things may affect colour intensity and contrast??? It's all guess work!
Just had an idea ......... I bought Gen S because I couldn't get the one I wanted and it was the closest ........... let me just check something...........
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.