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  • MrsGardenMrsGarden Posts: 3,951

    lills try  Taylors clematis they are really easy to use for requirements

  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,384

    lills, have you tried growing your clematis in deep pots for a year before planting?  I always do this when buying young clematis and have excellent success rates when I plant them into their final positions.  I always prepare a very deep hole and fill with home made compost, before planting the year-old clematis about 4-6 inches deeper than when they were in the pots.  Before I started doing this (many years ago) I lost a lot of plants in the first year, mainly because many of the well-known suppliers do send plants which are too small to successfully plant out.  This is the sort of thing I use:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/301131705445?lpid=83&clk_rvr_id=610171905104&item=301131705445&lgeo=1&vectorid=229508

     Edit: note that the better suppliers tend to send you plants in this size pot.  More expensive but far more likely to thrive, so well worth the extra.

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,058

    Training clematis to spread horizontally will naturally encourage them to make more shoots and more flowers but the two key things are to get the pruning regime right for each plant and also to make sure they get generous feeding from very early spring up until the end of June or when flowering starts, whichever is later.

    New clematis can take a year or two to settle in and get their roots happily established  and producing new shoots and flowers.     As Bob says, planting deep is key to clematis success.

    I have about 40 clematis after having lost some to severe winters but this spring, one of last year's no shows is pushing up new shoots and looking good, a benefit of deep planting.    I shall be training it as horizontally as possible and feeding it well..

     

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
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  • Ashleigh 2Ashleigh 2 Posts: 256

    Obelixx 40!!!! so jealous, which are your favourites?

  • StevedaylillyStevedaylilly Posts: 1,102

    Mrs G and Mrs Garden

    Hope your clematis grow well. I use 6 processes in spring to give them the opportunity to give their best

    1. Prune as required

    2. Blood fish and bone dug in around the base of the plant

    3. Mulch around the base with 2in of good quality compost

    4. Place section of slate over the base of the plant to keep the sun heat away from the roots of the clematis and keep them cool and moist. This is only required if the planting position of the clematis in a sunny position

     

    5.  Apply a solvable fertiliser feed such as phostogene every 2 weeks up to the end of April

    6.  Change this to a tomato feed at the the beginning of May and apply every 2 weeks until the first flowers appear

    I have 36 clematis in my garden it takes a lot of hard work and effort but normally they give me a great display each summer/autumn 

    Also in my opinion they always look more natural growing up a shrub than a trellis

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,058

    Ashleigh - no favourites really.   I love the delicate alpina forms but can't grow them here as they want to perform when my winters are usually still dragging on and they die of cold.   Ditto montanas and armandii.

    I stick to a few group 2s such as Nelly Moser which I've paired with Ravarhinne for extra impact on a north facing wall, Red Robin which is a group 1 and all the rest are group 3s hardy down to -25C - Blue Angel, Chrystal Fountain, Arabella, Princess Diana, Silver Moon, Sunset, Hendryetta, Little Nell, Minuet, Alba Luxurians, Betty Corning (scented), Huldene, Dr Ruppel and many more.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Mrs GMrs G Posts: 336

    Thanks for the advice everyone.  It looks like I'll have to add some compost, and BF&F to my clay soil when digging the planting holes. image

  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,109

    Spend as much on the hole MrsG  -timewise even if not financially.  Prep is the key and I'd agree with Bob totally about the deep pots. When I buy clematis in those pots I always keep them for future use. Small clematis in smaller pots means they're usually very young so they need a bit of time to grow and develop into decent plants. 

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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,124

    My alpinas are in bud and Pamela Jackman is showing colour already - and this on a north facing fence image


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Mrs GMrs G Posts: 336

    The two new ones are in those lovely deep pots and they do come in handy for potting on other things as the plant gets a good root run.  

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