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  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,614

    Findern garden centre in Derby is very good. (just off the A38 near to the toyota plant)

  • Yes, know Findern garden centre well. Derby Garden Centre which has been taken over by the Blue Diamond group is closer to us but not as good plant wise as Findern. 

  • Jim MacdJim Macd Posts: 750

    You could grow the native Clematis vitalba, old man's beard, on a trellis in the meantime, it's really fast growing, fast enough to reach six feet in a year, it isn't evergreen but it's good for wildlife, then when the Viburnum has grown you can get rid of the Clematis if you don't want it anymore. You might need two to cover a fence panel quickly. Naturescape sell them, that's where I got mine to cover a gap. Failing that how about Rose Rambling Rector, grows very fast, is almost evergreen and has hips which the birds will eat. Mine grew 3 meters from a bare root six inch high stub planted less than two feet from a 4m high conifer

  • Thanks Jim for the suggestions, the problem I have is that the fence is my neighbour's and I am hesitant to plant against it. Any suggestions on how to get around my predicament.

  • Jim MacdJim Macd Posts: 750

    Yeah, you could get some pretty cheap stakes put some wire between and grow the Clematis on that if you want to go Clematis way. But I'm sure your neighbour wouldn't mind if you put some brass screws into the posts and put wire between for supporting your climber. 

    I meant to add to my last statement above about the Rambling Rector that it grew 3 meters in the first year. It's been in just two now and has almost filled or at least softened the large gap I bought it for. It would probably be too big for your space but it would certainly grow faster than anything else I could name. Did I also mention that it has beautiful scent and rage clusters of smei-double flowers. The bees still get a good helping of pollen and nectar. It isn't native though. 

    Another native with berries and is evergreen is Ligustrum vulgare. Now, the British origin ones are not fully evergreen but the Italian origin ones are. If you go for that one be very careful not to get confused with Ligustrum ovalifolium, the common privet, L. vulgare has berries since it flowers much earlier in its life that the common privet, which is from Japan. L.v. has the same kind of white flowers, smells very nice and attracts bees and butterflies. The berries are poisonous to us but the birds eat them. 

    If you don' have Viburnum opulus though, I do recommend it. It's so lovely. A bit unruly if you want something formal but I doubt you do if you want a wildlife plant. 

  • Tried to get Viburnum opulus from my local garden centre but they didn't have them in stock, said they would try and order it for me. It makes me laugh, the centre has everything imaginable except a selection of plants.They must know what they are doing because we had to queue to get into their huge parking today. 

    The climbers will be difficult to organise because the fence posts are concrete. I like the idea of the Ligustrum vulgare but my book says the  fruit are black. Do birds eat the black berries? 

  • Jim MacdJim Macd Posts: 750

    Yeah, just think of all those purple pavements in autumn after the birds have been at the Elderberries. They are native don't forget. 

    Funny, the car park at my favourite garden centre is always packed, yet you go into the garden centre and it's empty, just the staff. Where's all the people with the cars? In the cafe! image

  • If my garden centre don't come up with the goods can you recommend somewhere I can order the Ligustrum vulgare. I'm sure to told me but I can't find it.

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,441

    http://www.hedging.co.uk/acatalog/product_10276.html

    back to Buckingham nurseries Ahmadmirzaimage



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • Thanks nutcutlet, remember it now, spoke with Mandy, Buckingham Nursery. Will give our local a chance, if they don't come up with the goods will contact Buckingham. .

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