it looks like a montana hybrid to me. Spring flowering so don't go mad cutting it back until after it's flowered. If you can't wait, it'll come back after a severe pruning but when you've removed the old trellis, I'd cover more of the wall and carefully position the new shoots as they grow. It's pretty vigorous to say the least , and you seem to have plenty of room there.
I've tackled overgrown plants on trellis like this before. If you can, try to get the whole thing off the wall in one piece. Then try to break up the trellis and remove it from the tangle so you've the maximum plant left to deal with. You should find you can trace some good strong stems which you could keep and remove the rest. That way you've got some stems to start to retrain once you get your new trellis in place.
I once removed a 40 foot wide wisteria from a house, rewired the walls, untangled the whole thing and repositioned it. Time consuming?, yes: worth it? definitely .
If this is a Montana - and it seems likely - then you will lose one season of flowers if you cut it back hard before mid April asthey flower on old wood. On the other hand, by cutting half back now to leave a manageable bundle, you will have an easier time replacing the old supports with something stronger and more extensive and then you can more easily train in the new shoots come spring to have a more manageable and attractive plant in future.
Montanas are pruning group 1 so usually they are tidied up once flowering finishes in spring but only pruned enough to remove any dead wood and keep them in bounds. They are vigorous so it will need to be regularly monitored and trained in to its support. They recover well from a severe haircut as long as the new growth isn't zapped by untimely heavy frosts which is why I suggested earlier that you could take it back by a half - as insurance.
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And finally, a close up of it coming away from the wall ...
Thanks to Nutcutlet for the tip re the photo uploader.
(There will be no stopping me now!!!)
Morning all.
I plan to attack this beast today ... unless anyone can identify from the above photos and advises otherwise?
Thanks - Steph
It needs to be done Steph whether it likes it or not. Before the next gale or heavy snow rips it off.
I can't ID it, sorry
In the sticks near Peterborough
it looks like a montana hybrid to me. Spring flowering so don't go mad cutting it back until after it's flowered. If you can't wait, it'll come back after a severe pruning but when you've removed the old trellis, I'd cover more of the wall and carefully position the new shoots as they grow. It's pretty vigorous to say the least , and you seem to have plenty of room there.
Happy gardening.
I've tackled overgrown plants on trellis like this before. If you can, try to get the whole thing off the wall in one piece. Then try to break up the trellis and remove it from the tangle so you've the maximum plant left to deal with. You should find you can trace some good strong stems which you could keep and remove the rest. That way you've got some stems to start to retrain once you get your new trellis in place.
I once removed a 40 foot wide wisteria from a house, rewired the walls, untangled the whole thing and repositioned it. Time consuming?, yes: worth it? definitely .
If this is a Montana - and it seems likely - then you will lose one season of flowers if you cut it back hard before mid April asthey flower on old wood. On the other hand, by cutting half back now to leave a manageable bundle, you will have an easier time replacing the old supports with something stronger and more extensive and then you can more easily train in the new shoots come spring to have a more manageable and attractive plant in future.
Montanas are pruning group 1 so usually they are tidied up once flowering finishes in spring but only pruned enough to remove any dead wood and keep them in bounds. They are vigorous so it will need to be regularly monitored and trained in to its support. They recover well from a severe haircut as long as the new growth isn't zapped by untimely heavy frosts which is why I suggested earlier that you could take it back by a half - as insurance.