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  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,441

    Where did you get your 'Clerodendrum bungei' from Moargyl?image



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • Flowerchild is right!

    Davidia involucrata it is.

     

    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • I personally don't think it's a Davidia involucrata the leaves on your tree are different to the leaves on Davidia involucrata.

    The leaves on Davidia involucrata are smooth with the leaf structure on the underside were your leafs are rough and structure is really visible on the face

    But I'm a clueless beginner

     

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,441

    I've never had a close encounter with Davidia involocruta but I looked at some images 

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=davidia+involucrata+leaves&rlz=2C1CHFX_enGB0538GB0538&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=LPs_UpDtJcaR0AXl_YHIBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=930&bih=431&dpr=1

    and it seemed to match pretty well

     



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • There are 2 different Davidia.

    Davidia involucrata and Davidia involucrata var vilmoriniana.

    One has completely smooth leaves the other has hairy leaves.

    Forget which way round it is.

     

    We had a 15 year old specimen that flowered in the last 2 years.

    I knew I recognised the leaf earlier just couldn't think why!

    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • SalinoSalino Posts: 1,609

    ...this is Davidia involucrata, if you want to enlarge and compare...

    image

     

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,441

    Lovely, can't think where I'd fit it in though.

    Re the C. bungeii which it should have been, how hardy is that? It's been on my 'maybe' list for some time



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • SalinoSalino Posts: 1,609

    C. bungeii......I see one in a town garden in Fenland that seems to survive well enough - on my way to work...although I believe they die back to ground level like Fuchsia's and regrow to flower in the same season, if caught by severe weather....

    ..perhaps best for the south coast....?   ...in any case the leaves are smelly when crushed....image

     

    ..p.s. I'm having trouble with the forums workings today...I don't think they like people who don't visit too often...image

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,441

    C. trichotomum smells as well, the floers have a good scent but you have to be careful not to touch a leaf when smelling them



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • Thanks again all, I'd be absolutely delighted if it was a Davidia, it would have pride of place in the middle of my front lawn! But, as obviously not so CluelessGardener says the leaves don’t seem to match entirely, they are certainly hairless so maybe var. vilmoriniana? Not sure. The buds look promising though.............

    http://www.barcham.co.uk/trees/davidia-involucrata-handkerchief-tree 

    so I have added a close up.

    image

     

    It was bought in a sale from a National Trust shop and according to the incorrect label it was also grown by them in Devon/Cornwall. My neighbours took the photo and a leaf to Wisley last week and also drew a blank, they just confirmed that it wasn’t a Clerodendrum!

    I shall have to go and find a growing specimen.image

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