hi there,all your comments are so right,i find it very very odd about this attack on theses poor babies, did the police manage to take photos???? surely when mum or dad found theses children in a horrid state surely they must of been a lot of noise,screaming,crying,shouting etc,surely the fox would of done a runner not just sit there in a corner waiting for the police to turn up....all very weird. maybe just maybe if there back door was open perhaps a dog came in and mauled them...form another neighbours garden,have pictures of this fox in the bedroom been published?? so weird really weird,,,,,...... whatever the outcome its still awful for parents,and my thoughts are with them,but an attack like this is rare. culling them is not going to work,,more dogs do more damaged to children/adults cull some dog breeds....and ban owners who allow there dogs to attack and be aggressive.
So you believe everything you read in the papers then? It's the silly season. Newspapers are looking for a bit of sensationalism.
Foxes will be attracted to the smell of blood and are perfectly able to jump up to first floor garage roofs, let alone climb stairs. Perhaps the smell of blood was already there for whatever reason? Consider that before blaming a wild animal.
I agree with Midge's comments entirely. I live in rural Buckinghamshire so therefore we live side by side with many of our lovely animals, and have many visits to our garden which is sited beside woods from foxes, badgers,owls, hedgehogs and a family of deer. The female walks around our garden then always takes a chunk off my latest flower head! or nibbles many of the plants - do I care - no, I would rather watch that wonderful, priviledged monment during a summer evening, than other sights which I could go out and find.
Historically foxes are timid of humans, I am well aware that urban foxes behave differently to our rural ones, due to the very nature of finding food, living areas etc, I have seen many in urban areas during the day, whereas only a couple during the day back home, which is totally out of character and usually has a reason behind it - not well or injured; and recently one which seemed almost dazed,as it was staggering slightly which could have been from maybe being knocked by a car, or poison. Not pleasant to see in any case.
I agree with the comments made regarding the situation at the home where this attack apparently happened. I do hope that all investigations have been made and the appropriate pathology tests have been carried out, not only because of the obvious health risks from the accused animal bites, but because this relates to children and in this case two at the same time. So therefore a very detailed investigation should have been carried out. Also along with Midge's comments, as Whitevan woman commented, foxes are attracted to the smell of blood, and for a fox to go inside someone's home, then walk all the way upstairs with the obvious smell of a human domain, then carry out an attack is quite bewildering to me. And then to apparently sit in the corner is beyond comprehension and more than questionable.
Simon King, presenter of BBC Springwatch, commented this week that during all of his professional career and dealings with animals and foxes he has never heard of such an occurance.
Again with comments posted on this site - dogs attack children, and unfortunately we have reports of this quite frequently, though how many families with children still have dogs?
This apparent situation has given those people who dislike foxes the very moment they have waited for, and now of course I hear that in urban areas it is open season now for culling foxes as man as usual becomes judge and jury and as always to the suffering of animals.
I too am finding it extremely difficult to even consider that an urban fox attacked these babies who are not exactly tiny at 9mths and in separate cots !!!. How come this 'supposed' fox was managing to jump in and out of the cots attacking both babies without the parents hearing, surely, the first obviously distressed cries from the babies till it had done its attacking is beyond me, and, for the fox to still be sitting there whist the parents 'supposedly' tried to get the fox out of the bedroom !!! NO WAY . . . I am sorry that these babies were attacked by something but i'm sure it wasn't a fox . . . .
A complete investigation of the whole incidence should definitely be carried out. It is quite possible these people are lying and covering up for something else that did this. The whole report is a complete load of you know what. I fear that it will now allow our new Tory government along with our Tory Mayor to reintroduce the barbaric blood sport of fox hunting and mass culling. The fox hunting brigade weren't at all happy when it was banned and still tried to get around the law to continue with their sick weekends by whatever means . . watch this space !!!
Foxes are lovely creatures and need all the support we can give them. I feed them and have never had any problems with them at all. Admittedly i have no chickens but there are valid reasons why they sometimes mass kill, as with all wild animals they do this and bury what they can't eat to keep for times of not being able to get food. I am, happily, able to enjoy the cubs antics of chasing each other and watch their rough and tumbles. I too have a recurring family of foxes living in my garden. Last year the vixen had 5 cubs, they all stayed quite happily till it was time for them to leave. She came back again this year and had 4. Mum and 3 of the cubs recently abandoned the garden after the next door neighbour terrorised them in the early hours of the morning when we had all gone to bed, for over a week, with bricks and large stones thrown at my far sided fence. I couldn't understand where all the half bricks and large stones were coming from which i found in my garden each morning till one night i couldn't get to sleep and at 1.30am i heard a loud clunk hit the fence. I got up to see what it was and there was the neighbour throwing stones at the fence followed by her using the hose pipe aimed at the entrance of the den till someone in my house got up to use the bathroom, she saw the light come on and very quickly she put the hose away and scurried back indoors. Now whose the sly one !!
As for Hackney council setting up traps in the said garden and killing a caught fox, "supposedly the one who attacked" yeah right, + 4 more - why didn't they just take the 5 foxes they're meant to have caught up to Epping Forest which is not that far away from Hackney ?? but far enough for them to start a new life . . . . The whole affair stinks and makes you wonder as it all just does not add up . . . .
gosh you have a odd neighbour,did you confront them over their behaviour ????? how dare they!! what is the update with regards to this fox attack on theses babies,does anyone know????? im another who finds it all very very odd and things dont add up... maybe a dog got in and went upstairs,attack the babys,left,and then the fox came in cause it could smell blood and now is getting the blame..... all odd odd odd.
Yes mother and babies are lovely to watch but when the decide to make your garden their home they are a nuisance.
A mother and her 3 cubs destroyed my garden and I had to clean up their infested droppings daily to make it safe for my grandaughter to play. Thankfully the have now moved on however the mother regularly visits as a neighbour who feeds her. Following this she then visits my daughters front door and defecates. The vixen also terrorises family pets which i have witnessed. She even killed our pet rabbit and left the carcass. She is not afraid of humans in fact very brazen probably because of the neighbour feeding her.
Last year one did enter the house and bedroom and caused absolute chaos and destruction. So i can believe it when it is reported they entered this poor families home and attacked these poor babies.
Although i don't agree on a cull ( leave this to nature) I would I respectfully ask people not to encourage them by feeding them.
I have read all comments with an open mind but have to say foxes do not belong in towns, if all creatures took up residence in towns it would be chaos. yes a lot of dog breeds are dangerous and the law is too slack on controlling them but many dogs are well trained and controlled. I am now frightened of leaving my french windows open on a hot day as my old yorkshire terrier could not defend itself in an attack and there are foxes in neighbours gardens. foxes are not to blame but should not be encouraged to stay in towns, like all rural animals thats were they belong.
My dog was attacked by a fox; one rainy night when I returned home from work I let my Akita (pup, only 9months old then) out into the garden, only a few moments later she screamed in pain...I ran out and she came towards me with her face covered in blood, the fox had bitten her on her face and neck. I took her inside and wrapped a towel around her head. I then went outside and felt so upset, it was strange to find the fox still in my garden just standing they’re staring at me. This was a frightening experience. I picked up the closest thing to me – a watering can and throw it toward the fox, it then ran away. Then next evening it was back again. I feel they torment my dog, as well as dig up my garden and soil everywhere including the area by my back door.
I can relate to all these affections towards the urban fox, it’s quite distressing.
I, too have created a cottage garden from a patch of grass. It's in its third year now and is my haven. Being a novice, I don't know anything about dividing plants and it's been very hit or miss. But a joy all the same.
Can anyone tell me why a hardy geranium which was burgeoning last summer now has leaves which are turning red and very small flowers?
Also - a grafted aubergine plant bought earlier in the year is looking very sorry. What can I do to revive it?
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did the police manage to take photos????
surely when mum or dad found theses children in a horrid state surely they must of been a lot of noise,screaming,crying,shouting etc,surely the fox would of done a runner not just sit there in a corner waiting for the police to turn up....all very weird.
maybe just maybe if there back door was open perhaps a dog came in and mauled them...form another neighbours garden,have pictures of this fox in the bedroom been published??
so weird really weird,,,,,......
whatever the outcome its still awful for parents,and my thoughts are with them,but an attack like this is rare.
culling them is not going to work,,more dogs do more damaged to children/adults cull some dog breeds....and ban owners who allow there dogs to attack and be aggressive.
Foxes will be attracted to the smell of blood and are perfectly able to jump up to first floor garage roofs, let alone climb stairs. Perhaps the smell of blood was already there for whatever reason? Consider that before blaming a wild animal.
Historically foxes are timid of humans, I am well aware that urban foxes behave differently to our rural ones, due to the very nature of finding food, living areas etc, I have seen many in urban areas during the day, whereas only a couple during the day back home, which is totally out of character and usually has a reason behind it - not well or injured; and recently one which seemed almost dazed,as it was staggering slightly which could have been from maybe being knocked by a car, or poison. Not pleasant to see in any case.
I agree with the comments made regarding the situation at the home where this attack apparently happened. I do hope that all investigations have been made and the appropriate pathology tests have been carried out, not only because of the obvious health risks from the accused animal bites, but because this relates to children and in this case two at the same time. So therefore a very detailed investigation should have been carried out. Also along with Midge's comments, as Whitevan woman commented, foxes are attracted to the smell of blood, and for a fox to go inside someone's home, then walk all the way upstairs with the obvious smell of a human domain, then carry out an attack is quite bewildering to me. And then to apparently sit in the corner is beyond comprehension and more than questionable.
Simon King, presenter of BBC Springwatch, commented this week that during all of his professional career and dealings with animals and foxes he has never heard of such an occurance.
Again with comments posted on this site - dogs attack children, and unfortunately we have reports of this quite frequently, though how many families with children still have dogs?
This apparent situation has given those people who dislike foxes the very moment they have waited for, and now of course I hear that in urban areas it is open season now for culling foxes as man as usual becomes judge and jury and as always to the suffering of animals.
A complete investigation of the whole incidence should definitely be carried out. It is quite possible these people are lying and covering up for something else that did this. The whole report is a complete load of you know what. I fear that it will now allow our new Tory government along with our Tory Mayor to reintroduce the barbaric blood sport of fox hunting and mass culling. The fox hunting brigade weren't at all happy when it was banned and still tried to get around the law to continue with their sick weekends by whatever means . . watch this space !!!
Foxes are lovely creatures and need all the support we can give them. I feed them and have never had any problems with them at all. Admittedly i have no chickens but there are valid reasons why they sometimes mass kill, as with all wild animals they do this and bury what they can't eat to keep for times of not being able to get food. I am, happily, able to enjoy the cubs antics of chasing each other and watch their rough and tumbles. I too have a recurring family of foxes living in my garden. Last year the vixen had 5 cubs, they all stayed quite happily till it was time for them to leave. She came back again this year and had 4. Mum and 3 of the cubs recently abandoned the garden after the next door neighbour terrorised them in the early hours of the morning when we had all gone to bed, for over a week, with bricks and large stones thrown at my far sided fence. I couldn't understand where all the half bricks and large stones were coming from which i found in my garden each morning till one night i couldn't get to sleep and at 1.30am i heard a loud clunk hit the fence. I got up to see what it was and there was the neighbour throwing stones at the fence followed by her using the hose pipe aimed at the entrance of the den till someone in my house got up to use the bathroom, she saw the light come on and very quickly she put the hose away and scurried back indoors. Now whose the sly one !!
As for Hackney council setting up traps in the said garden and killing a caught fox, "supposedly the one who attacked" yeah right, + 4 more - why didn't they just take the 5 foxes they're meant to have caught up to Epping Forest which is not that far away from Hackney ?? but far enough for them to start a new life . . . . The whole affair stinks and makes you wonder as it all just does not add up . . . .
how dare they!!
what is the update with regards to this fox attack on theses babies,does anyone know?????
im another who finds it all very very odd and things dont add up...
maybe a dog got in and went upstairs,attack the babys,left,and then the fox came in cause it could smell blood and now is getting the blame.....
all odd odd odd.
A mother and her 3 cubs destroyed my garden and I had to clean up their infested droppings daily to make it safe for my grandaughter to play. Thankfully the have now moved on however the mother regularly visits as a neighbour who feeds her. Following this she then visits my daughters front door and defecates. The vixen also terrorises family pets which i have witnessed. She even killed our pet rabbit and left the carcass. She is not afraid of humans in fact very brazen probably because of the neighbour feeding her.
Last year one did enter the house and bedroom and caused absolute chaos and destruction. So i can believe it when
it is reported they entered this poor families home and attacked these poor babies.
Although i don't agree on a cull ( leave this to nature) I would I respectfully ask people not to encourage them by feeding them.
I can relate to all these affections towards the urban fox, it’s quite distressing.
Can anyone tell me why a hardy geranium which was burgeoning last summer now has leaves which are turning red and very small flowers?
Also - a grafted aubergine plant bought earlier in the year is looking very sorry. What can I do to revive it?
Christine Lennon