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Greenhouse orientation.


I’m taking delivery of an 8x8 greenhouse on Wednesday here in Dublin. I have two options to install it as per the above. To the east and north will be fencing. 
Option 1 was my original plan. I wanted to get my main quad grow toms and peppers on the south wall with the door west facing. Prep/ propogators on the east wall (blue squares) with power there, and seed trays, cut n come again, maybe some more toms on the north wall, still getting plenty of light from the south.

however due the final decision we’ve made not to go with a corner couch on our little patio and to do a bistro set instead option 2 is now open. Rotating the door southwards. This means the main wall of plants would be west facing and so on. I have loads of slack in the power cables so can run them round to the north side.

I think option 1 is ideal, but would it make a significant diff if I changed to option 2 to have the door face out onto the patio rather than grass?
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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I installed my 10x8 greenhouse West-East
    So one long side faces south and the other north.
    I grow tomatoes on the North side.
    The reason for this is that the plants will naturally grow towards the south and most fruits will form on the south-facing side too, so they will grow toward the middle of the greenhouse.

    If you plant your toms on the south side - they will still grow toward the south.
    So leaves will press up against the glass and most fruits will also grow on the south-facing side making them less easy to reach.
    It also means that what you grow on the staging will be shaded by the tomatoes.

    The other advantage to growing you toms on the North side is that it will leave the south side free of shade so you can grow peppers, chillies and anything else you choose without it being shaded.

    I would strongly recommend some sort of shading on the south side for summer.
    Even some old net curtains will do a very good job of that.

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • @Pete.8 MASSIVELY appreciated. Like most of the best advice when you hear it it immediately makes perfect sense! Seems east west with my quad grows along the North side will be the better option then.
  • steephillsteephill Posts: 2,841
    I don't think it makes any difference as far as light is concerned, after all the entire thing is transparent. Ease of access for you and power and water is much more important. I have an 8x8ft greenhouse and it is oriented as your option 2 mainly because that is the shortest route from the back door to the greenhouse door.
  • The best orientation will also depend on what planting ( trees/hedging/shrubs ) are close enough to have an effect on the GH itself.
    I have used both E/W and N/S orientatation over 50 years of having GH's from 6 x 8 to 20 x 50.  The access has to work for you as well as electric supply if used.  Depends on what you are growing and whether you are planting directly into a soil base, raised beds or pots on staging.
    With the more extreme weather patterns we are experiencing, it's not always easy to decide which way is best.   
  • @philippasmith2 no planting will really mess with it. Access is ok either way and I can make power work either way. Access look more natural north south, and that would give me the ability to add cold frames on the grass. Most of my sun in the afternoon / evening would be south westerly so I think that would work for option 2 also, but option 2 would definitely cut down on morning sun.
  • Not much more I can suggest really.  I get enough sun from the East ( if/when it decides to appear ! ) to grow both Peppers and Toms on staging facing East. Again, I find that it is totally weather dependant as to what does best.  As an example, in 2019 before I had the GH, Toms and Peppers cropped well outside facing South. I may even get away with growing some of them outside this year but I have no idea.
    The only other thing I would point out is that the sun from the East will not be as strong earlier/later in the year as it will be in mid summer but I'm sure you know that anyway  ;) .  Only you will know whether the light is sufficient to bring the plants on in your location.
    I don't envy you trying to decide but if the advantages outweigh the disadvantages for 1 option over the other, go with the best.
    Good luck and perhaps post when you have decided and how it works for you :)   

  • Hi Ciaran, I don’t have a greenhouse, yet, so might not be the best to give advice however I would probably pick option 2 if it was mine. Door closer to the power allows shorter cabling and patio by the door allows cleaner access for popping in and out in the wetter weather compared to a soggy lawn, but as I say, I am no expert.
    Being in Ireland myself (Cork) and looking at greenhouses (won’t be this year for me) I am wondering who you bought from? I have been looking at Landmark Greenhouses myself. Looking forward to hearing how you get on with yours.

  • @Emptyheadtime I should have been clearer, that power point is INSIDE the footprint of the greenhouse, and there’s loads of loose cable so I can run that around the base inside and have my socket anywhere want really.

    I bought from Quickcrop in Sligo, mainly because for €150 odd extra they’ll install and build it for you. I’ll use Lenehans probably accessories like automatic vent openers and shade cloths.

    The model I went with is a Vitavia Phoenix.
  • nick615nick615 Posts: 1,487
    ciaranmcgrenera and Emptyheadtime I'm in West Cork so must ask, at this early time, whether either of you has considered a more radical design on a DIY basis.  In my opinion few models are ideal?
  • @nick615 in theory I’d love to do something like that. In reality I’m not sure I have the skills, and I know that with two kids under 4 I definitely don’t have the time! 
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