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Bird baths

Why do the local birds prefer to do their daily ablutions in muddy puddles rather than use the bespoke bath I have made for them?
I have a large shallow grey plastic planter, approximately 12 inches deep, lined with black pond liner to make it waterproof. I put sandy gravel and cobbles in it to make it more shallow. I have seen a few birds taking a quick drink but no bathing. It is on top of a base about 2ft 6ins tall in an open area near the bird feeders and there are banks, trees, and bushes close by for perching. The water level is about 3-4 ins deep, and the diameter of the bowl is around 24 inches across. No plants growing in it, puddles do not have plants in them. Should I remove the cobbles? It has been in situ for a couple of years but the avian population continues to ignore it. I am thinking of dismantling it. The feeders are visited by a great many different birds, I thought at least one kind might fancy a de luxe bath, perhaps my idea of deluxe is not the same as birds.
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  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,546
    If it makes you feel better, I can't remember seeing any of our usual birds bathe at all. We have two ponds and any number of water retaining receptacles around, but if they do  wash, they must do it in secret :) The ducks splash about and the swallows dip in sometimes when taking a drink, but chaffinches, goldfinches, robins, blackbirds etc, never. Perhaps they are shy or they just get wet enough with our usual rainfall!
  • I also have a birdbath and a very small pond, and I've never seen the birds using either.
    Cheshire
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    The birds have always used my ponds, and also the other water/bathing trays, but there's many occasions where I see the smaller birds enjoying a drink and a bath in the crappy guttering on the neighbour's garage, which forms a bit of my general boundary. 
    No accounting for taste eh?   ;)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    edited 14 February
    I'm trying to visualise your bird bath @Joyce Goldenlily. If the planter is 12 inches deep and the water is 3-4 inches deep, plus some cobbles, then I suspect that the birds don't like being enclosed by that difference in height. I have a standard, circular, concrete type birdbath on a pedestal which is gently sloping to a depth of less than a couple of inches. It's very popular for bathing throughout the year, particularly with blackbirds and robins. They approach it cautiously, perch on the edge, spend a few seconds looking around in all directions to check that the coast is clear and then take the plunge! The open vista to spot likely predators is probably important for them.
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited 14 February
    I agree with @Plantminded … a shallow saucer shape with low sides is what is needed … just a couple of inches of water is plenty. Our birdbath is frequently used by lots of birds for drinking … from woodpigeons, magpies, blackbirds  and starlings to bluetits, sparrows and dunnocks … they also use the shallow ‘beach’ end of the pond nearby  They use it for bathing mainly during the nesting season and the mounting period after nesting. 
     
    I keep a couple of pieces of broken pot in the birdbath yo make an ever shallower area and the small birds use them to perch on before they get into the slightly deeper water. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • ViewAheadViewAhead Posts: 866
    I use a large porcelain-type saucer, about 12" across and an inch or so deep, placed on the ground away from immediate vegetation.  All the birds use it all the time, big and small.  🙂  They sometimes form a queue, each waiting their turn.  Being shallow, they do splash the water out quickly, so I refill most days, and sometimes twice a day in hot weather. 

    I have found they will not use any bath that is elevated, sunk into the ground, or too near shrubs etc (presumably as a predator could be lurking there unseen).  They also avoid clear plastic containers. 


  • RubytooRubytoo Posts: 1,630
    It really is a bit of a conundrum isn't it?

    Here we have a large-ish black plant saucer  25 to 30cms diameter in a wide open space on the ground on the back "lawn".
    It is very shallow 2.5cms or maybe 3 cms deep with a smooth slope (not vertical) to the edge and a fat rounded lip.
    It is a dull black and not shiney with a slightly rough dull finish.

    Also a slightly larger one the same design as the above, in the front garden in a very open spot on the "lawn" area again.

    Both are well used, although initially the birds avoided them. 

    There is also a more traditional terracotta coloured plastic one smaller and deeper, that is used but not as well used as the shallower one.
    Especially smaller birds, which do drink from it but would need water wings to bathe.

    I read somewhere that birds are shy of black bird baths as they see a black hole and not a bath. 
    But placing pebbles apparently helps them to see it better.

    Which does seem to make a mockery of your efforts Joyce, as you have done what you are supposed to?

    Just to rub it in, another favourite spot for bathing and drinking are on top of a ground level concrete drain cover. Nuthatches, Dunnock, and various members of the tit family all favour the little dips where the handles for lifting it are.
    I have seen them trying to bathe in them when there are two smaller saucers there,
    They are plastic plant saucers 6 cms  and 9 cms on the same drain cover  which is by the way, sited near a garden wall with plant cover nearby....
    They do use them to bathe in when the handle dips are low or empty.

    Must be a conspiracy ;)

  • I also had a large plastic terracotta drip tray saucer on top of a bank which I did see a very few small birds use for a bath. I have ferule farm cats around here which is why I put my fancy bath out in the open. I did wonder if the water is still too deep. I will persevere and put some more gravel in it before giving up. I have a small pond quite close by but I have only ever seen my dog and cat drink from it. mainly because I do not have a beach area. There is a slope but I have seen frogs and toads jump from the tops of plant baskets out onto the surrounding slabs.
    As you say Fairygirl. no accounting for taste. A bit like the wonderful Avocado bathroom suites of days of yore!
  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    When I moved here there was a birdbath set in a corner of the lawn. It was still popular but moving it into the border and surrounding it with tall airy perennials and grasses increased the footfall, and splashing!


    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • CatDouchCatDouch Posts: 488
    The birds in my garden use the standard stone bird bath to drink from but I rarely see them bathe in it.  They use the very shallow end of my pond to bathe in though, it’s probably only about an inch deep and they sit in it and splash the water over themselves.  It sounds like they prefer very shallow water for their ablutions 😁
    South Devon 
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