Forum home Fruit & veg
This Forum will close on Wednesday 27 March, 2024. Please refer to the announcement on the Discussions page for further detail.

South facing Porch Fruits?

Hi all,

We have a south facing Porch on our current house which is somewhat more like a conservatory (dwarf wall with glazing all around).

The kids love fruit picking and we have some land with a variety of fruit trees and would like to bring something to the home.

We live in Staffordshire, the porch is unheated but being south facing gets very hot in the summer. It has a large ledge all the way around over the dwarf wall that could possibly sit some smaller growing fruiting plants or there is enough floor space 1 larger fruit tree like a peach maybe?

Just looking at suggestions really and what others grow in their porch or conservatory? Have heard citrus can be hit and miss (mostly miss) but you get the benefit of them being evergreen. I'm guessing the summer heat may actually be detrimental to berries? (Blackberries, Blueberry's, Strawberrys). I do really like the foliage and flowers of peach trees and keeping them out of harm for leaf curl maybe the ideal thing, but do peaches do well long term in pots and also heavy pruning to keep it from taking over the whole porch?

Thanks in advance!

Posts

  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I can't really think of any fruiting plants that would thrive in a south-facing porch in summer.
    It will get very hot in the summer and without any shading would scorch plants - net curtains could prevent that though.
    Whatever you grow will need to be pollinated, so pollinators must be able to get to the flowers, so you'd need an open window during the day that isn't covered with a net curtain.

    If pollinators can gain access and you can prevent it overheating, then maybe patio tomatoes (e.g. Maskotka) would work. Snackbite peppers and chillies could also be ok there. Maybe even a melon.
    A friend grew Cape Gooseberries in his greenhouse last year with great success.
    I grew some in my garden which were ok - but tbh I didn't really like the taste, but they may work - easy to grow from seed sown late Feb/March.
    My CG pants only got to about 1ft but produced berries all summer long, but they're an acquired taste.

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Ahhh ok so maybe an idea to take the fruits outdoors during the peak summer months and during blossom, if potted this won't be an issue 🙂 still swaying towards a peach tree but not 100%
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    The only one I'd try would be strawberries. You can have them in fairly modest pots or containers, and then move them outside in late spring/early summer before the heat is too  much for them.   It would possibly give you an early crop - in the same way commercial growers do it with polytunnels etc. You'd then [hopefully] get more flowers/fruits later on depending on the variety and the conditions.
    I wouldn't try it with the brambles or blueberries - it just wouldn't suit them IMO.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • thevictorianthevictorian Posts: 1,279
    I'm not sure why citrus wouldn't work if you are happy to move them outside in the summer. There are lots of other species that would be happy to overwinter where it doesn't freeze but get some air in the warmer moths, strawberry or pineapple guava and kiwi fruit are good choices. Peaches seem to do well in polytunnels with some shading but they tend to be in the ground. You can keep them in pots for a while but you would need really dwarf rootstock and a big pot.
  • Thanks for all the information 🙂 we've sowed some snackbite peppers to grow on in there, some watermelon seeds ready to sow in April as more of a hopeful trial. May look to get some citrus in there (Calamondin, Meyer Lemon and some sort of lime). It will be more plant than porch 😂
  • philippasmith2philippasmith2 Posts: 3,742
    Meyer's Lemon is one of the hardiest for the UK and in the right conditions will fruit well.  However they do get to be trees so worth keeping that in mind when moving them from conservatory to outside and back again before the frosts.  I like the Physalis ( Cape Gooseberry ) but IME, they can get to a fair size and love to spread.  Depending on your location, they will also do well in in a GH or tunnel - even outside if the summer is decent.  Water melons would usually need a lot of room and greedy for water and feeding.  Ogen melons may be a better option but again you are talking about large containers to get the best out of them.
    Agree with @Fairygirl about the Strawberries - much easier to handle and move around.
    If you can provide a bit of shading as and when needed one of the smaller cherry type tomatoes may be worth thinking about ?
    So much depends on what you like and what size containers you can use on the ledge and on the floor.
Sign In or Register to comment.