That's interesting @clematisdorset - good to know it is at least possible, as all of the pots I'm looking at online that are 60cm diameter at the base (which is what David Austin have told me is needed) are HUGE at the top - circa 80cm, which is far too wide for the space. Interestingly I noticed this David Austin pic below of one of the roses they recommended to me (Strawberry Hill) and as far as my eyes can tell, this pot doesn't look like 60cm high or wide! So hopefully it will be ok if I go for something a bit less than 60cm at the base (I hope I'm allowed to share this photo from the DA website - all photo credits to David Austin! Please do tell me anyone if I'm not allowed and I'll remove it)
I also noticed that on this rose it says "full sun only" and I had told them that this is for a North/North East facing wall - it does get some sun from the right hand side in the late afternoons in the summer, but it's minimal. Now I'm wondering whether I'm better off putting my bets on a short climbing rose such as Strawberry Hill below which is more likely to do better in a pot, or a rose that's more likely to do better in the shade! Such a tough one to work out... it'll be a miracle at this rate if I can get this idea achieved!
@Wild_Violet no I definitely wouldn't mix climbers together in a pot - I meant that I would have perhaps 2 or 3 same size pots along that wall/steps. I'd like one plant to be evergreen so there's a bit of something in winter
I think it will be OK if the base of the pot is a bit narrower. I think the depth is more important. I've seen that photo of Strawberry Hill before and thought the pot was small.
What about "Narrow Water"? It's a smallish pink rambler that doesn't mind some shade. When I mentioned Rambling Rosie I forgot about shade.
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Worth looking at the round Chelsea Terrace range pots (they have 3-4 different designs) that Woodlodge sells, they would look good with your grey door and they go up to a 45/47cm across which should be fine for a smaller rose. They have the benefit of being pretty light too. Some were currently half price when i noticed them a week ago.
Should be ok with 50cm ish top of the pot by 50cm again obviously bigger the better, the 60x60 cm recommended by DA is width at the top and depth, I've never know pots measured at the base. Don't get a belly shapes pot ( cant remember the name ) they are wider in the middle then narrow at the top , I've made that mistake with a rose probably have to break the pot to get it out .
Do you know what rose you want ? Some of the DA shrub roses will obtain 8ft so that may be of interest . Sorry if I missed it had a quick scan read.
I were looking the other day at some pots of Charellagardens some nice terracotta pots .
I measured again outside and I really don't think it can be any deeper/wider than this or will just be too bulky / leave no space to walk past.
@Perki I agree on the size - I specifically said "is your 60cm for the top or bottom" and they answered "the bottom", but I agree pots are never measured like that, so perhaps they're wrong. I noticed that elsewhere on the DA website it says 45 x 45 cm They have generally been really helpful though, so don't mean to criticise them.
I think I've decided to go for the Strawberry Hill rose, and hope hope hope it gets enough sun out there!
Looks like a nice pot @gilla.walmsley I'd be a bit hesitant though because its states its Frost Resistant you really want one that is Frost proof , forking out so much money I'd be wanting a frost proof at least . I have a few small Yorkshire pots that are frost proof with no damage so far , my frost resistant pots have nearly disintegrated , they may of said frost resistant to cover themselves but personally I wouldn't buy them .
Ask on the rose thread for recommendations , which way does the wall face ? Strawberry hill looks like it need lots of light . Are you growing the rose along wires or a obelisk?
Well spotted @Perki - it gets very frosty out the front in the winter so I absolutely need frost proof!!
I'll be growing it along wide metal trellis that will be attached to the porch. Because the next house down is set back from me slightly the area does get some sun in the afternoons in the summer, but it is a risk. Although in general I'm on top of a hill with few trees around in the south east, so it's absolutely scorchio here from June-Sep. I usually only have to worry about too much sun and not lack of! But time will tell.....
I think DA’s 45x45cm is for their shrub roses. As big as you can fit for a climber as they don’t get annually pruned down like a shrub or bush rose, so repotting can be a nightmare.
I’m growing a vigorous climber in a 60x60x60cm cube but a bit of tapering toward the bottom is fine. I agree pot height is more important than bottom circumference because roses have deep roots. You don’t want it tapering too severely though, as it might be a bit top heavy and thus unstable in wind.
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I've finally made a decision after looking in many garden centres with a measuring tape: I'm going to go for the pot below. It is frost proof and the pot that best fits the space (ideally no more than 50cm wide, but tall enough for the rose).
Before I order it, I'm trying to decide whether I should order a second one at the same time (delivery charges are high) for my other plant to go next to it on the bottom step. That then lead me to pondering whether I should go for another Star Jasmine or another Hall's Prolific evergreen honeysuckle. I have both plants out the back and love them! Does anyone have any votes on what would look best with the Strawberry Hill rose, or what would be most likely to do ok in a pot? And would this pot suit either of them?
Even though both plants say they require "full sun" I have them like this out the back and they actually both struggle in summer... as I discussed on another post, I am starting to work out that "full sun" on a label doesn't tend to mean my garden's kind of full sun, which almost feels mediterranean! So I think either the Jasmine or Honeysuckle would do fine out the front in terms of light.
Other suggestions of evergreen plants welcomed too, they're just two I know and like
@gilla.walmsley I think the honeysuckle would struggle in a pot (it's a woodland plant) and even the Star Jasmine will in time as they are both very vigorous plants which need a lot of watering.
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I also noticed that on this rose it says "full sun only" and I had told them that this is for a North/North East facing wall - it does get some sun from the right hand side in the late afternoons in the summer, but it's minimal. Now I'm wondering whether I'm better off putting my bets on a short climbing rose such as Strawberry Hill below which is more likely to do better in a pot, or a rose that's more likely to do better in the shade! Such a tough one to work out... it'll be a miracle at this rate if I can get this idea achieved!
@Wild_Violet no I definitely wouldn't mix climbers together in a pot - I meant that I would have perhaps 2 or 3 same size pots along that wall/steps. I'd like one plant to be evergreen so there's a bit of something in winter
What about "Narrow Water"? It's a smallish pink rambler that doesn't mind some shade. When I mentioned Rambling Rosie I forgot about shade.
Do you know what rose you want ? Some of the DA shrub roses will obtain 8ft so that may be of interest . Sorry if I missed it had a quick scan read.
I were looking the other day at some pots of Charellagardens some nice terracotta pots .
I'm thinking perhaps something like this https://worldofpots.com/product/tuscan-coconut-plain-medium/
I measured again outside and I really don't think it can be any deeper/wider than this or will just be too bulky / leave no space to walk past.
@Perki I agree on the size - I specifically said "is your 60cm for the top or bottom" and they answered "the bottom", but I agree pots are never measured like that, so perhaps they're wrong. I noticed that elsewhere on the DA website it says 45 x 45 cm
I think I've decided to go for the Strawberry Hill rose, and hope hope hope it gets enough sun out there!
Ask on the rose thread for recommendations , which way does the wall face ? Strawberry hill looks like it need lots of light . Are you growing the rose along wires or a obelisk?
I'll be growing it along wide metal trellis that will be attached to the porch. Because the next house down is set back from me slightly the area does get some sun in the afternoons in the summer, but it is a risk. Although in general I'm on top of a hill with few trees around in the south east, so it's absolutely scorchio here from June-Sep. I usually only have to worry about too much sun and not lack of! But time will tell.....
I’m growing a vigorous climber in a 60x60x60cm cube but a bit of tapering toward the bottom is fine. I agree pot height is more important than bottom circumference because roses have deep roots. You don’t want it tapering too severely though, as it might be a bit top heavy and thus unstable in wind.
https://worldofpots.com/product/rustic-big-plain-vase-medium/
Before I order it, I'm trying to decide whether I should order a second one at the same time (delivery charges are high) for my other plant to go next to it on the bottom step. That then lead me to pondering whether I should go for another Star Jasmine or another Hall's Prolific evergreen honeysuckle. I have both plants out the back and love them! Does anyone have any votes on what would look best with the Strawberry Hill rose, or what would be most likely to do ok in a pot? And would this pot suit either of them?
Even though both plants say they require "full sun" I have them like this out the back and they actually both struggle in summer... as I discussed on another post, I am starting to work out that "full sun" on a label doesn't tend to mean my garden's kind of full sun, which almost feels mediterranean! So I think either the Jasmine or Honeysuckle would do fine out the front in terms of light.
Other suggestions of evergreen plants welcomed too, they're just two I know and like