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Propogators

Hi all,

I’m getting my first greenhouse in 4 or 5 weeks. I’m excited to grow some food, for the first year I don’t think I’ll push too hard in terms of pushing the envelope of what it can do.

My plan is to grow San Marzano, John Baer, and a cherry tomato- Resi. If the timing works I’d like to grow Padrons also. As the year goes on I’ll add herbs, maybe one or two other opportunistic bits.

im looking a propagators and like
most things these days the options are dizzying. I’m wondering do I need heated, should I plant directly in the propagator or use a good seed tray with cells- to sit inside the propagator. Is 20 odd seeds of each enough? I plan to use a quad grow system (it seems to be available now in a few places) so all I’ll need is either 4 or 8 tomato plants max. 

For the herbs I figured I’d just buy the plants in the garden centre and be really nice to them!

Any advice is GREATLY appreciated, particularly propagators, etc.

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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Along with quite a few others on this forum I have a heated Vitopod propagator in my greenhouse.
    I sow chilli and tomatoes around mid-Feb in the propagator.
    I don't have a light for it.

    Billericay - Essex

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  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    I usually get not far off 100% yield from tomato seeds, even old ones. 20 seeds each of three varieties should give you around 50 to 60 plants. Just sow a few more than you need, seal up the packets (in a ziplock bag or wrap up tight in cling film), and store them somewhere dry and not too hot. What's left will be fine for several years.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • HeliosHelios Posts: 232
    I sow my seeds in small pots or cells inside the propagator. What I couldn’t be without is the type which has a variable temperature control. Speaking from previous mistakes, much better than the sort you just switch on and hope for the best. 
  • LeadFarmerLeadFarmer Posts: 1,500
    edited 24 January
    As Pete.8, I use Vitopod heated propagators with thermostat.

    https://www.greenhousesensation.co.uk/product-category/heated-propagation/vitopod-variable-temperature-control-propagators/

    I started using then for the first time last year to grow chilli plants..

    https://forum.gardenersworld.com/discussion/1072927/growing-chilli-plants/p1

    Sow your seeds in trays or pots, not directly in the propagator, that way you can control drainage and move the seedlings about when needed.
  • thevictorianthevictorian Posts: 1,279
    I use a non heated propagator (I even use a modified clear plastic tub) and have never had a problem germinating chilli or tomato seeds. I do wait a bit longer though as they tend to get leggy if the days aren't bright enough for them. 
    I sow more than I need because we swap or give them away but I agree that tomato have excellent gemination success and chilli are good but not as high, at least for me.
  • ciaranmcgreneraciaranmcgrenera Posts: 313
    edited 25 January
    @thevictorian how much longer do you wait?

    …and how far North/ South are you?
  • thevictorianthevictorian Posts: 1,279
    I'm in norwich and tend to sow chilli's mid to late febuary, because they take a while to come up and tomatoes go in march but they can be sown a little later. Chilli's need a long season but tomatoes seem to catch up earlier sowings and produce stronger plants when you have better light.
  • LeadFarmerLeadFarmer Posts: 1,500
    Looking at my notes from last year, I sowed chilli seeds (Aji Benito & Spike) in my greenhouse propagator on 7th March, set at at 27 degs, they germinated 8 days later and I was harvesting green chillies from July and red chillies from August. I'll be doing the same again this year.
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