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Cotoneaster

Dies anyone grow a Cotoneaster X watereri, or similar? Or maybe a different variety?
I wondered whether this/these types of Cotoneaster grow predictably. I have also found some suppliers give the x watereri specimen a different name, which may have caused me some confusion. 
Which Cotoneasters do you really enjoy? I am thinking of the value to birds and wildlife too. 
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  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    I have several Cotoneaster franchetii around the garden and find it a really good "doer".

    https://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatalog/cotoneaster-franchetii.html

    Tough as old boots and the berries always look pretty against the foliage in my opinion.
    It makes a good hedge as well. 
    I can definitely say the blackbirds enjoy the berries, l don't have many left  :)
  • Thank you @AnniD. Do you find it grows quickly in its mature state? Do you find it easy to maintain and prune? 
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  • There are so many Cotoneasters. I am finding it difficult to remember what Is what.


    Is Cornubia almost identical to x watereri, does anyone know?


    Also note ' probably involved'.... 


    Fromn Wikipedia :

    Cotoneaster × watereri, or Waterer's cotoneaster, is a large evergreen shrub belonging to the genus Cotoneaster.

    Cotoneaster × watereri
    Fruits of Cotoneaster × watereri
    Scientific classificationEdit this classification
    Kingdom:Plantae
    Clade:Tracheophytes
    Clade:Angiosperms
    Clade:Eudicots
    Clade:Rosids
    Order:Rosales
    Family:Rosaceae
    Genus:Cotoneaster
    Species:
    C. × watereri
    Binomial name
    Cotoneaster × watereri
    Exell

    It is an artificial hybrid, initially of Cotoneaster frigidusCotoneaster henrianus and Cotoneaster salicifolius. Later also Cotoneaster rugosus and Cotoneaster sargentii were probably involved.

    Leaves of Cotoneaster × watereri


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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I have a hedge of Cotoneaster franchetii about 75ft long - planted in the early 1980's.
    It's great.
    It needs little pruning (if you don't mind it getting to about 12ft) but can be kept much shorter.
    I just trim back any wayward branches as and when I think it needs it.
    In Spring it hums with bees. In autumn/winter it has masses of orangey/red berries that the blackbirds enjoy.
    It's semi-evergreen.

    I also have a C Lacteus as a specimen - it's only a couple of year old atm, but it's already doing well.
    Masses of flowers and bunches of berries appear in late autumn - it does get big though.

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  • clematisdorsetclematisdorset Posts: 1,348
    edited December 2023
    @Pete.8 Thank you @pete.8 . Franchetti gets another vote! Would you say it would look ok if not grown as a hedge, or would it look very strange please?

    I had better give Lacteus a miss.
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  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445
    'Cornubia' is a cultivar, a selected form, of Cotoneaster x watereri. I think it's often used for any of them even if not 'Cornubia' I find the larger Cotoneatsters ungainly as the get older. you can cut them right back but you lose berries for a time


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  • Thank you @nutcutlet, very helpful. Perhaps Cornubia and x watereri would get too big for my purposes!
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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited December 2023
    I can't really say - mine is quite a dense hedge with each plant about 2ft wide and up to about 12ft tall.

    I have seen one grown as a specimen, but I don't know which variety it is.
    The flowers and berries form in clusters and it has a slightly weeping habit.

    A local school also has a cotoneaster grown as a small tree and it looks amazing. The leaves are quite large and semi-evergreen and the huge bunches of berries look great.
    It was seeing this one that encouraged me to get the Lacteus, to which it looks similar.
    I think it could be a Cotoneaster × watereri

    There are quite a lot of varieties, and like you I've noticed that some appear to be mis-labelled so not easy to work out which is which!

    PS - AFAIK they can all be pruned quite hard without any concerns, but there may be a loss of flowers/berries

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  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    My MIL has franchetii as a hedge in her front garden around 4 feet high. It's easy to maintain, Like @Pete.8 says it's easy to trim off any wayward shoots as necessary. 
    I'd forgotten about the flowers in Spring, as he says the bees love it.

    It looks very similar to this.

  • Thanks very much @Pete.8, you have put my mind at rest regarding some of the confusing issues that have been playing on my mind.  :)

    I also thought Lacteus looked similar to x Watereri, but with the name labelling misnomers, I ended up too confused...I think I am feeling more tired than usual as well.

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