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Window-sill herb problems

Hi all, 

I've tried many times to keep my supermarket bought potted-herbs alive, with mixed success. So I thought I'd ask the experts. 

I re-pot the with a herb compost, and try to keep them watered, but not too wet.  I've started using a liquid fertiliser.

My parsley always develops the pictured yellow leaf ends, like burn marks  (whether indoors or outdoors).  I'm not getting the leaves wet in any way.   The photo below looks a bit like the leaves are infested, but I think this is just a camera zoom artifact  (I can't see any creepy-crawlys under magnification.)

My basil (outdoors) always catches a sort of black mold, so I've given up there.  Indoors, it's better,  but some leaves develop the pictured leaf damage, which I pluck off.  Otherwise, the plants seem healthy.

I always have problems with fungus-gnats; these are almost under control now (less watering, a chemical spray directly on the soil, and sticky cards.)

Any suggestions what I can do to keep these two healthy?

Regards,
Robin



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  • What seems to be a better way to deal with any supermarket bought herbs is to split them as they are made up of tens of individual plants as they prioritise fast growth so they go for sale as soon as possible. Just repotting them as they come will never lead to success as you have ten plants trying to grow at the same time and compete for moisture and nutrients. 

    What I've found tricky is getting enough bright light on them indoors. Would be hugely wasteful to start using grow lights for parsley and basil...frankly I'd rather freeze some at the end of summer or buy some pre-frozen ones. For most cooking applications there's absolutely no difference in being freshly picked or frozen. 
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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I freeze stuff as well. I don't buy the supermarket ones though - I grow mine from seed.
    The biggest problems from autumn and over winter, is those aforementioned light levels that are very low, but also temperatures. My house simply isn't consistently warm enough to support Mediterranean herbs, or even to get them germinated this late in the year, so freezing is ideal.
    If you split the basil [basil grown from seed is also better split into smaller clumps and repotted, rather than individual seedlings] and then keep them as dry and warm as possible, they might thrive. As already said, when you buy these, they aren't single plants.  I only have basil outside for a few months over summer. It would be very late to have it outside, even in a warmer drier part of the country.
    The compost flies etc are always a problem though, but it's the same in summer with indoor plants. A thick layer of grit can sometimes help.  I don't grow parsley, so can't judge that, but I agree that it isn't worth the expense of grow lights etc. 
    They don't need fancy compost - any multi purpose is fine as long as the drainage is ok.  :)
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    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    Those supermarket herbs that are a lot of young plants together in a pot aren't really meant to be grown on in the long term, just to last a bit longer than cut fresh herbs. If you want to keep them going, it's best to try to separate them out as soon as you can after you bring them home, before the roots get hopelessly entwined. If you can get a few separated out intact to grow on, you could just use the rest straight away for cooking.
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  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,698
    Basil roots easily in water so if I buy a pot of supermarket basil, I always take a few cuttings in order to extend the life of the plants. They are not a long lived species, at least not in my house.
  • SueAtooSueAtoo Posts: 380
    I really detest fungus gnats. It took several applications of nematodes to eradicate them and the yellow sticky cards didn't seem to attract them at all unless put by the windows. I have an idea they were brought in in houseplant compost.
    East Dorset, new (to me) rather neglected garden.
  • Basil is a "warm" plant so best grown in summer - you can then use fresh. freeze or make an oil with it.  Parsley will overwinter outside in milder conditions so pick and use during it's growing period which can last until November/December.  Excess can be chopped and mixed with heated butter and made into "pats" which can then be frozen until needed.
    As others have said, most of the the "soft" herbs sold in the SM's are multi plants and need to be split and grown on to make the best of them.
    Little point battling against the odds to keep some of them growing indoors thru the winter months  :)  
  • Thanks for all the helpful comments.  In future I will split the SM plants across more pots, and I will also try to grow from seed in the new year.

    @SueAtoo My sticky cards are *covered* in gnats.  I don't think the cards are supposed to attract the gnats, it's more just a random collision thing.

    @Fairygirl Thanks for the hint about grit.  I've done a search and picked up some tips.

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