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Understanding what full sun and shade really means

Hello,

I know there is a lot of information out there, but I am really struggling to get clarity on what is meant my full sun, part shade etc. For instance, in my garden at this time of year an awful lot of it is shaded by trees (one evergreen, and a few deciduous) for a good chunk of the day. Back to the spring and until a few weeks ago, the shaded areas would have have at least 6-8 hours of sun. It gets a tad less shaded when the deciduous trees drop. 

So - if a plant needs full sun, I presume it's mainly talking about the main growing season?

Also - with shade. There is evidently a big difference to that cold shade of being under a tree canopy and shade being a west facing wall, or behind a larg me shrub. Should gardeners view these as different types of shade? Is there a good definitive guide on all of this, as I'm struggling to make sense of what should be a simple concept? 🙂





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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    "Understanding what full sun and shade really means"


    I agree it's confusing and the terms are not very helpful. "Partial shade" is even worse.

  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,698
    It is confusing but I look at it as a mid summer thing. I have an area of the garden that is boiling hot and bone dry a lot of the summer but at present it is in partial shade due to the sun being lower in the sky. Were I to plant things that are happy in partial shade there, they would all keel over and die come June/July so that area sports the sort of vegetation that can take hot sun and little rain. The shady area of the garden in winter isn't shady all of the time in mid summer so I put things that are happy in partial shade there.
    Just to confuse things further, I don't always put sun lovers in full sun because I know they will burn up so it is really a question of looking at the local conditions in the middle of summer and adjusting your planting accordingly.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    The amount of sun/shade is determined by summer conditions. 
    Full sun is considered to be 6 or 7 hours. That would generally be a south facing sort of site, but that isn't the whole story, because of other factors - buildings,fences and other planting. 
    Full shade would generally be a site where there is minimal sun. A north west round to a north east aspect would often be that kind of site. Again - any other factors can change that. A large plot, facing north, with nothing around it, will get a fair bit of sun at the farthest end, for example. 
    Semi shade is simply somewhere in between. The shade can be dappled - a deciduous tree, or hedge, would tend to provide that. It can also mean plants that get a few hours of direct sun only. East and west facing sites are the most common aspects for that. 
    As with the other sites/aspects though, other factors can affect it. 

    The other big factor in all of those is - climate. The amount of sun or shade a plant can cope with is always affected by that, as @Ceres describes with the sunny parts of their garden. A damper climate means soil won't dry out so readily. A hotter, drier one is the opposite. Just because a plant likes full sun doesn't mean it'll be happy in every garden.
    Wind is another factor. 
    Many plants are quite adaptable, so it's always about choosing the best site, and then experimenting, or moving them if it doesn't work well   :)  
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


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