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Too late to deadhead echinacea?

LatimerLatimer Posts: 1,068
Hi all,

As per the title, is it too late to be deadheading echinacea?

I've only just seen today that I should have been doing it to prolong flowering, it's not something I've ever done. If it's now going to be too cold to get any more flowers, I'll leave them for the winter seed heads but if you think a late flush is possible I might give a few a cut back.

Many thanks,
I’ve no idea what I’m doing. 
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  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    I'd say that it's too late now.  Leave them if they look as if they'll offer some winter interest, or cut them back to the ground.  I leave most perennials to fade for a few weeks and then cut back those that add only misery!
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • RubytooRubytoo Posts: 1,630
    edited October 2023
    Plantminded said: I leave most perennials to fade for a few weeks and then cut back those that add only misery!
    :D
    Good one. So busy laughing I forgot to say agree with Plantminded I think it is a bit late now too.
    Their seed head can look quite nice, and you may get some self seedlings.
  • LatimerLatimer Posts: 1,068
    Thanks @Plantminded, i thought as much. Something for me to remember for next year I guess!

    I’ve no idea what I’m doing. 
  • LatimerLatimer Posts: 1,068
    Thanks @Rubytoo, I must have been typing at the same time as you! 

    I have been leaving them for the last few years over winter, only really tidying the stems that completely fall over. Never had anything self seed though (or I have and wiped it out assuming it was a weed! 🙈)
    I’ve no idea what I’m doing. 
  • floraliesfloralies Posts: 2,718
    Mine have all gone over now, I leave the seed heads for the birds, the goldfinches are very partial to them.
  • LatimerLatimer Posts: 1,068
    I shall keep an eye out for them @floralies 😊
    I’ve no idea what I’m doing. 
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    I asked on this forum about dead heading perennial rudbeckias a few weeks ago. The two people who replied said don't deadhead them as it wouldn't make a difference and the birds like the seedheads. They are the same family as echinacea.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    edited October 2023
    During the growing season, Echinacea will reflower if deadheaded, like Heleniums, which are also in the Asteraceae family.  October is too late though.

    https://www.gardenersworld.com/plants/echinacea-purpurea/#
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Unless perennials are flowering early enough that they can then produce a later flush, it wouldn't matter about deadheading, or cutting back. Many plants I grow aren't finished their first flowering spell early enough because of that, so they can't produce a second flush before conditions are no longer suitable.
    It does promote more flowering [in most plants] if you dead head throughout the main growing season, but it would be too late now if there are no buds showing.
    Whether you then leave seedheads on existing spent flowers, is down to choice and, more importantly, your conditions.  :)
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  • I don’t deadheadEchinacea or Rudbeckia, the flowers last for so long anyway. I used to deadhead my Heleniums but they never re-flower for me? Maybe it’s the variety, I think from vague memory they were one if the Autumnale series 🤔
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