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Laurel all berries and fallen leaves

I have a row of Portuguese laurel with two individual ones that have shed most leaves yet they have so many
berries. 
Does anyone know what this is and what I can do about it?  
Thank you

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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    They must be under stress of some kind if the leaves are being shed. That can be down to various things such as the soil being poorer or waterlogged in that area, competition from other plants, or a solid layer of rock/concrete/clay etc, or drought affecting them earlier in the year.   The berries would already have formed which is why they'll be ok. Any further stress would see those withering though.
    If you can load a photo, that ca help with advice, as well as some further info about your location and soil/climate etc.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • That is really helpful thank you. We are in a clay soil area and I do feed them with grow more as a fertiliser. I wonder if like you say competition from other plants as there’s a whole row of them pictures attached. 
    This has been the third year planted from 1.2 m size and have trimmed them to show the trunks. 
    We are in a kent town but not
    costal
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    The most likely reason is lack of water during dry spells. You wouldn't have to worry about that if you lived where I do !
    Feeding them won't help though. It's better to regularly mulch the border with any organic matter - compost/rotted manure/chipped bark or leaf mould [if you have it] and do that when the ground is thoroughly soaked. That helps the soil structure, and enables more moisture retention during long dry periods. Clay soil is ideal as long as it's had a bit of help to make it drain well, or retain moisture in long dry periods. That regular mulching does both jobs with clay.  :)
    If they've been a 'regular' hedge before you trimmed them,  it's quite likely that the soil has been dry, because the rain doesn't get through the canopy easily enough to soak the ground. Even as standards, that canopy will shelter the soil, so unless you've had proper rain on a regular basis, it may be that the ground is a bit dry. They like plenty of moisture. Have a little poke around at the soil - if it's damp enough a couple of inches down, then it should be ok in that respect. 
    That one may simply have struggled while the others have flourished though. That does happen sometimes for no obvious reason ,and the others look fine. There's a little bit of vine weevil damage on the foliage, but that's rarely a problem unless the grubs have eaten through the roots at an earlier stage. If that happens, it would need replacing. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • That’s great advice, thank you😀 
    I did have all bark around the boarders but ended up losing it all when clearing the dead leaves at the base that naturally shed and also from the park trees that fell from next door last year. 
    So I will add fresh compost and bark and also check and sort the health due to vine weave. Do you think there is a chance that shrub could recover or how long until decide it’s no longer viable? 
     
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I'd give it until next spring/early summer and see how it is then. It should recover well enough by that time if it's just a bit dry, or the soil's a bit poorer there.
    If you can add that compost etc over winter, that will certainly help in several ways.  :)

    You would know if the weevils had really affected it as they eat through the roots. The plant can look fine and then suddenly die off, or keel over. You could test it by giving it a wiggle and see if it seems well firmed in. If it starts to pull out, it may be too late.
    I think it's more likely that it's just suffering a bit from competition for moisture and nutrients, as the damage is minimal, so hopefully it'll recover for you. They're pretty tough in that respect   :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • PlantmindedPlantminded Posts: 3,580
    Looks like dehydration to me, as detailed by @Fairygirl.  This can cause the plants to become vulnerable to powdery mildew and shot hole disease if they don’t receive adequate water during the growing season.  As advised, adding plenty of organic matter to your soil will help with water retention. Adding a bark mulch when the soil is damp will also help. Keep your plants well watered if we have a dry spring and summer next year. I have struggled to keep Portuguese laurel healthy on my dry sandy soil and have had to remove two mature plants which never recovered from powdery mildew and shot hole disease after two years of trying to revive them!
    Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.


  • thank you fairy girl and plant minded 😀😀 
    makes me feel I’ve got something to get on and try salvage. 
    First time I’ve been on any forum its been so helpful thank you so much 
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