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What's done this - mice?

borgadrborgadr Posts: 718
edited October 2023 in Problem solving
My rudbeckia look like they've nearly all been dead-headed. But I haven't touched them!

This hasn't happened all of a sudden, but rather gradually over the last 6-8 weeks.

Initially when it was just a few, I thought maybe snails or slugs had eaten through the stalks. But the seed heads are not sitting on the soil, they've been taken away somewhere.

Squirrels do this to my sunflowers- they remove the seed heads and eat them somewhere else in the garden (I've caught them in the act, and found seedheads 20 metres from the plants).  But I don't think rudbeckias could take the weight of squirrels - they'd have bent over.

Could field mice do this?  I have a family of field mice living in my compost heap at the other end of the garden.

Or rats even? (Maybe rats are too heavy? And I never see any in the garden)


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  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    They are very clean cuts,  are you sure someone else hasn’t been dead heading them for you? 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • borgadrborgadr Posts: 718
    Yes, 100% sure!
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    If it’s mice it looks like they have a tiny pair of scissors. There are no bite or chew signs that I can see .
  • borgadrborgadr Posts: 718
    No, it's a very clean cut.  Nothing of the kind happened to these flowers last year or the year before.  

    If it's not mice, anyone have an idea what might make a clean cut like this (other than a human holding a gardening tool)?
  • Have you fallen out with your neighbours recently ? 😉
  • borgadrborgadr Posts: 718
    Have you fallen out with your neighbours recently ? 😉
    Haha!

    I'm certain no-one's cut these.  You can't reach the middle ones to deadhead with secateurs anyway (I know because I have a drift of cosmos nearby, and it's very difficult to reach some of them to deadhead).  You could reach them with shears, but then the stalks would all be the same height, which they're not (and the seedheads would be around the base of the plants, which they're not).
  • @borgadr
    Mice, voles, squirrels and birds all may eat seedheads. But not if they were still in flower.

    If you have a family of fieldmice nearby, it's a possibility. The heads do look as though they've been cleanly cut, and fieldmice are very lightweight, and tidy.

    All you can do is wait until next year, then set up a camera. Or follow the tracks. Any mice droppings nearby?
  • TopbirdTopbird Posts: 8,355
    Muntjac do that to my roses, some hardy geraniums, euonymus, etc etc.... 

    About 3' and below is their grazing height, anything much taller tends to be safe. They are particularly neat and tidy 'cuts' and it looks as though somebody has taken a pair of shears and dead headed all the stems.

    If it's muntjac there wil probably be some droppings somewhere. They look a bit like rabbit droppings  (like black currants) but usually stuck together in clumps.


    Heaven is ... sitting in the garden with a G&T and a cat while watching the sun go down
  • borgadrborgadr Posts: 718
    Camera's a good idea.  I'll try that next year if it starts again; I do have a trailcam 
  • SueAtooSueAtoo Posts: 380
    deer.
    East Dorset, new (to me) rather neglected garden.
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