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Stringless runner beans

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  • Dovefromabove said:
    As a child in the 1960s I remember my parents’ small farm was brought to its knees in the 1960s by an outbreak of Swinefever like this 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/stray-meat-snack-may-have-caused-swine-fever-outbreak-698448.html …

    caused by someone who thought ‘what harm can it do if I break the rules and bring something tasty back with me from my holiday’ …. after all everyone knows better than the experts don’t they?  To compare it with smuggling bibles is disingenuous in the extreme. 

    These things multiply exponentially whether it’s an infection of animals or plants.  Rose Rosette virus is indelicate in parts of the USA.  There are strict rules  about importing roses to the UK from the US .., it’ll take just one person who knows better than the experts, or who is so selfish that they just don’t care. https://planthealthportal.defra.gov.uk/assets/uploads/Rose-Rosette-Virus-information-note.pdf

    Arrogance or ignorance … it’s one or the other. It’s certainly not an example of intelligence and social responsibility. 

    Yes, but you are also using false examples, like the OP citing tree diseases. In my case it's mild libertarianism. If the only thing stopping a person from growing the plant that they want is bureaucracy and possibly cultural chauvinism, then there is no harm in the scenario that I paint. I am NOT talking about importing plants or feeding dodgy food to pigs or anything like that. In continental Europe you can get runner beans, but by the look of it, varieties that are bred for producing the beans themselves and not immature beans for slicing. Last year I planted 'Spagna Bianco' a large white seeded runner type bean from Italy, and the previous year Gigantes, once again a large seeded bean, this time from Greece, so we are not talking about a plant unknown on the continent.  Really we should just stop this conversation, you from your experience want to stick to the letter of the law, fair enough, but you know that if I took a pack of Lady Di beans over to Calaise and planted them it would do no more harm, than planting the 20 miles away in Dover. I would never do the things that you suggest and neither would I recommend that others do so.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    I don't need to smuggle runner beans seeds now. I'm quite happy now with the beans I've bought and grown in France. @Lyn they taste much better from the garden than the ones from the SM. Also they are totally stringless.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • You don't need to anyway - you can get runners in France.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Lyn said:
    I’ve bought some of those stringless beans in Tesco,  flat, pale and tasteless,  I wouldn’t want to grow them. 
    A very good website for all veg is Real Seeds. Supermarket seeds are generally rather poor.
    I’ve never found seeds and wouldn’t buy them from a supermarket!  Lidl sell a few sometimes but not the usual SM’s.  So no,  I didn’t buy the seed in the SM.
    I have used Real Seed,  I use Premier mostly now.
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

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