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New plants, look bad.

BrianAprilBrianApril Posts: 2
edited September 2023 in Problem solving
Hi.

I bought these plants online, they don't look very healthy to me.

cornus sanguinea midwinter fire & a rose.

The cornus obv needs watering desperately...
Is that Black spot on the rose?

Could someone please let me know what you think is wrong with them?

Many thanks 👍


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  • That is indeed black spot on the rose ... though I have definitely seen worse and we are right at the end of summer when really most roses will have blackspot to some degree.

    Re the cornus, I have never grown one, but that looks pretty normal leaf colour for early autumn, especially for a plant in a smallish pot.

    Basically, not too much to worry about.  Collect any blackspotted leaves as these fall, and bin rather than compost them.  Settle both plants in their new homes, water regularly (if there is not adequate rainfall) as their roots establish over the next 6 weeks or so ... and look forward to spring. 
  • @BrianApril The Cornus does look a large plant for the size of the pot. I wonder if it is post bound. It looks like it has little to grow in.
    I would personally be cross if a rose arrived with black spot.
    I guess it would depend on if they were bargains.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I wouldn't be too happy either.
    A reputable supplier shouldn't be sending out a diseased rose any time of year.
    The cornus does look very pot bound and has a big weed with it - pull that out before the seeds blow everywhere.

    If they were in an end of season sale and you got them very cheap, then fair enough.

    Billericay - Essex

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    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • I received some grasses earlier this week purchased on line.
    The packaging was cardboard and damp chip paper, pots were the beige ones that can often be recycled or reused. The compost was piled high with mulch to hold moisture, so it was easy to just top back up. Some plants were packed on their side and tightly packed to avoid moisture loss.No plastic bags.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    I don't think they look that good. Apart from the blackspot the rose looks somewhat spindly. I think it's still a bit early for autumn and the cornus was probably hungry and thirsty. You have a free weed too, something that often grows well on poor soil, horseweed. Don't let it seed.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,698
    The cornus looks as though it has been stressed for a while. I certainly wouldn't be happy about receiving that in the post.
  • Thanks for all the helpful replies. I have never received plants this bad in the past, it is very disappointing. The price was not reasonable for what I have received so I have contacted customer services for a refund. 


  • @BrianApril Perhaps you could refer the sellers to this thread. 
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I agree with the others - they look terrible. There's no excuse for that, and most reliable outlets would have cut that cornus back and removed the weed before sending it out. Large plants can be very easily damaged in transit, and good suppliers use a specific way of supporting and packaging them in order to avoid that, but cutting back often avoids the problem altogether, and presents no problem to the plant in future. 
     
    It would be interesting to know who supplied them @BrianApril.
    It would also help others to be aware of the company. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • McRazzMcRazz Posts: 440
    edited September 2023
    I'd be happy with those if i'd dug them out from a neglected plot and rescued them...

    If you know what you're looking at on a horticultural level you'll find that its not always the thin veneer of aesthetics that is immediately important, rather the core plant health. 

    Will they survive - it appears so
    Do they represent good value - perhaps not (but then again i believe most plants don't represent good value)




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