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Pyracantha hedge

rowlandscastle444rowlandscastle444 Posts: 2,612
edited August 2023 in Plants
Our pyracantha hedge is a couple of years old - well, almost. 
We have two colours - one with red berries at the front and one side at the front garden. We also have one with orange berries on the other side of the front garden.
ALL the plants with red berries are absolutely laden. However, the hedge with orange berries is, well, disappointing. I think just two of the plants actually have berries. Is this unusual? Last year most of the plants of both colour berries, were laden, except for one or two of the red-berried plants.
ALL plants have grown really well, and look healthy. They have fulfilled their purpose, in that they have grown to produce a sturdy hedge protection. But the idea was to be a haven for bees and birds too.

As an aside, I understand that the berries can be made into a jam, but I'd rather see the birds enjoy them.

Edited to add:
I should have mentioned that the red one is "Red Column", while the orange one is "Orange Glow".
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  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    edited August 2023
    @rowlandscastle444 If you pruned the ones witk orange berries at the wrong time you could have cut away the flowers and also the berries?
    I always thought they were edible but unpleasant. I won't be making any jam soon.
    I grew one as an espalier with yellow berries the blackbirds loved them andwhen my daughters were young they called it the birds sweet shop.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • Thank you @GardenerSuze
    I pruned the hedging AFTER the blossom had finished, and there was plenty on both. Strange how the red then produced berries, but the orange, very little.

    The red.


    The orange.

  • Just out of interest, do you think the birds prefer the red berries over other colours?
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  • Last year I found that the pigeons, doves and magpies went for the orange berries, but even then, some were left. The red berries were eaten almost entirely by sparrows - but there are more of them than any other bird.

    The orange berries are between us and the neighbours, so it's possible that their movements puts the smaller birds off, particularly as they (the neighbours, NOT the sparrows) have a pet dog, as well as two small children. Our front path is adjacent to this hedge also.

    The red berries are at the front (onto the pavement) and at the side (our driveway). On the drive side, there is a double row of plants, because that is the western side, from which comes the prevailing wind.
  • Thankyou and glad you clarified about the sparrows! 😁 
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  • floraliesfloralies Posts: 2,718
    That's interesting, i have two Pyracantha shrubs, they are in different places in the garden, neither have been pruned this year, both the same, one is laden with berries the other has a handful.
  • Hi @floralies
    Perhaps, I'm glad I'm not the only one with an anomaly.
    For myself, it can't be anything to do with the soil.

    I'll admit that there was more blossom on the red berry hedge, but enough across the board on the orange berry plants. The issue has occurred between blossoming and fruiting. 
  • plant pauperplant pauper Posts: 6,904
    I had the opposite problem years ago at my last house. Orange berries pulling the branches to the ground in cahoots with the enormously fat blackbirds and not one single berry on the Red Columns x2! No idea why. 🤷‍♀️
  • It's all very strange. No logic, no pattern, (I'm mathematically minded, so like to see either of those), so I wonder what the reason might be? Maybe it is, because it is!!
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    I just wonder if it is the same as apple crops some years good some bad. They are the same family.
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