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Whats better for improving soil, horse or cow manure?

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  • WaterbutWaterbut Posts: 344
    Depends what they eat. Spent 2 years digging up thistles from my borders.
  • plant pauperplant pauper Posts: 6,904
    arossrob said:
    Depends what they eat. Spent 2 years digging up thistles from my borders.
    Donkeys? 🤣
  • TeacupTeacup Posts: 31
    Horse?
    Cow?
    Sheep?
    Chicken?

    Anyone going to suggest goat or llama dung? Or even elephant dung? 🤣🤣🤣

    Funnily enough I’ve used alpaca manure as a fertiliser a few times, it’s quite good! Great for veggies 😂
  • rowlandscastle444rowlandscastle444 Posts: 2,612
    edited August 2023
    arossrob said:
    Depends what they eat. Spent 2 years digging up thistles from my borders.
    Donkeys? 🤣
    No, I don't suppose they ate donkeys!!😳
  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,546
    I always use the manure from our sheep shed, mixed with straw. Give it time to rot down and the roses, veg and other plants love it and the soil is much better where it has been used :)
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Too much shavings in the mix means someone isn't very good at mucking out @Pete.8  ;)
    Thistles don't tend to get eaten @arossrob - they seed in to a midden from elsewhere. If stock is eating thistles, they're something very wrong with the management of the ground.  :)
    Anything well rotted will help, but I'd never use cow dung. Always horse/pony. Cows are fed too much rubbish in my experience, and have a different digestive system from horses and ponies, so I'd prefer to avoid it. Probably being overly cautious though  :)
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  • RedwingRedwing Posts: 1,511
    Both are good. Both would also generally contain plant material, straw with cow manure and shavings with horse so both will contain plenty of plant material and be excellent as a soil improver. The old wisdom is that horse manure is 'warmer' which I think is drier so better in that sense, particularly if you've got clay soil.  Both are high in nitrogen and I really don't understand the comment above that says horse contains more.  It depends on how well rotted they are. For years I had access to cow manure from straw bedded cattle in winter.  Great stuff and I used it however it came; fresh, rotted or well rotted. They all had their places. Be very careful with fresh manure of any type though.
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  • AstroAstro Posts: 433
    My experiences from the allotment were that cow manure arrived wetter and smelled much more of ammonia sulphur type smells. The horse manure tended to be a bit drier and seemed a bit less active, but once it was wetted and left to rot down they were both really good. I always stacked mine as it kept the heat going for longer, every week or so I would turn it, this helped it break down faster. 
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    edited August 2023
    What a lovely decision to have.  Both are largely straw , perhaps wood shavings; that's fine.  But if you don't know what humus is, how do you know you have it?
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
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  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    My Spanish mare loved eating thistle flowers @Fairygirl, even when they were seedhead fluff but the other 3 horses didn't. My manure from my horses was full of seeds that they ate. My meadow was full of wildflowers. My flowers grew like mad but so did the weeds in my flowerbeds! Same problem as @arossrob.  
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
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