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What is a Good Alternative to Wisteria?

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  • elliotp981elliotp981 Posts: 105
    Lyn said:
    @elliotp981. What is that in your avatar photo? 
    @Lyn 😊 that looks to me like English lavender being visited by a Hummingbird Hawkmoth. 
    Yes it is, I see them on my Butterfly Bush a lot and they are so fascinating to see. 
  • elliotp981elliotp981 Posts: 105
    debs64 said:
    My jasmine has overwintered successfully for many years here in the West Midlands. It is “clotted cream” and comes back every year. Xx
    That's good, I would have a Jasmine but I don't have any space for one, unfortunately. 
  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    Sorry I thought you were looking to replace a wisteria. No worries. 
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    The thread title suggests that @debs64, so not your fault.  :)

    A lot of the posts/threads by this poster are very repetitive... 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Interesting about the Humming Bird Hawk moth on the Buddleia - I have 2 large B's but not noticed the HBH taking much notice of them.  Valerian and then Honeysuckle are their "go to " plants here.
    I can't remember whether you have a Buddleia @Lyn but seem to remember you always had the HBH moths/caterpillars ?
  • thevictorianthevictorian Posts: 1,279
    There are plenty of jasmin species that are fully hardy in the and even the less hardy star jasmine, seemed to sail through this very cold winter locally (I dont grow it but it's very common and planted in every situation you can think off from tiny pots to the windiest areas).

    We have winter jasmine and a few of the summer flowering species and they are all really attractant to insects but some can be quite rampant, far more rampant than japanese honeysuckle ime.
  • elliotp981elliotp981 Posts: 105
    Interesting about the Humming Bird Hawk moth on the Buddleia - I have 2 large B's but not noticed the HBH taking much notice of them.  Valerian and then Honeysuckle are their "go to " plants here.
    I can't remember whether you have a Buddleia @Lyn but seem to remember you always had the HBH moths/caterpillars ?
    There is a lot of buddleia in my area and near my garden, there's a giant wild one not far from my back garden which is always covered in butterflies. I've got two, one is small at the front and a "big" dwarf buddleia variety at the back which seems to be the popular one where I see all the different butterflies and hawk moths. They seem to ignore the honeysuckle at the front which is interesting, not sure why considering it is in the sun all afternoon until the sun goes down. 
  • elliotp981elliotp981 Posts: 105
    There are plenty of jasmin species that are fully hardy in the and even the less hardy star jasmine, seemed to sail through this very cold winter locally (I dont grow it but it's very common and planted in every situation you can think off from tiny pots to the windiest areas).

    We have winter jasmine and a few of the summer flowering species and they are all really attractant to insects but some can be quite rampant, far more rampant than japanese honeysuckle ime.
    It must be very happy where it is, I've noticed plants that are usually given credit as 'rampant' slow down to an extent in certain conditions but then again you would expect them too (especially if they are under threat by the conditions etc.)
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Interesting about the Humming Bird Hawk moth on the Buddleia - I have 2 large B's but not noticed the HBH taking much notice of them.  Valerian and then Honeysuckle are their "go to " plants here.
    I can't remember whether you have a Buddleia @Lyn but seem to remember you always had the HBH moths/caterpillars ?
    Loads of them Philippa,  all of the colours,  can you recall the huge white one outside of the conservatories.  Dark red by the telegraph pole and several plain old purple ones.
    we do have the patches of stinging nettle though to back them up.

    The moths and caterpillars  we have here are Elephant Hawk moths,  they completely ate away those two fuchsia bushes when you were here.   Fuchsia is their favourite food. 

    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • @Lyn   Yes,  now you've reminded me where the Budleias are, I can picture them exactly.  Heaven knows how I forgot the big white one in particular !!!  And yes, it was the Elephant Hawk moth caterpillars I was thinking of - they certainly did love those Fuschias.  I can remember trying to count them once  :D
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