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Rose problems

Hello, I have a 3 year old David Austen Rose which bloomed beautifully in the first 2 years. This year however it has not bloomed much at all and the leaves look very strange. I am a novice gardener and not sure how to fix. I got this Rose as a wedding gift so I would be very sad if it died. If it helps, I pruned it early spring (maybe I did this wrong or too much). I have fed it every few weeks since late spring when it started to grow again. I water regularly as its south facing so gets alot of sun . It is planted in a large pot because i rent my home and want to be able to bring it with me when i move. Any asvice would be really appreciated. Thank you

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  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,698
    Hi and welcome to the forum.
    Have you ever re-potted the rose or is it still in the original pot and compost?
  • Hi , I repotted it into this larger pot when I first got it 3 years ago and filled with new compost .
  • CeresCeres Posts: 2,698
    It could be that it needs new compost or the roots have taken over the pot. You could haul it out of the pot and take a look to see if it is pot bound. Quite often a plant will perk up no end when it is repotted in new compost.
  • Thanks so much I will try that! When you say pot bound what do you mean, as in what should I look for to determine this ? I am a novice so not really sure haha. 
  • AthelasAthelas Posts: 946
    edited July 2023
    @laurensimmonds30j3npN-ik, if you shimmy it out of its pot and it looks like this, then it’s pot bound — the roots have grown into all available space and some are going round and round at the bottom in a desperate search for space and nutrients. The plant is also unable to take up water or nutrition efficiently in this state.

    I’m very much not an expert but here’s what I would do in general terms (even if the rose isn’t pot bound), given that the potting mix doesn’t sound like it’s been refreshed in three years:

    - Use a pot at least 60cm in diameter and 60cm deep.

    - The pot must have lots of drainage holes. 

    - I tend to use a plastic pot that sits within a decorative pot (that also has drainage holes) — easier to handle when repotting a few years later.

    - Avoid using a pot shaped like this:


    - Better shape below — easier when you have to ease the rose out for repotting:


    - Position the pot in the sunniest spot you can provide.

    - Put the pot up on wooden blocks or pot feet, so it can drain well.

    - For the potting mix, I would use two thirds John Innes Number 3 and one third multipurpose compost or well rotted manure to counteract the heaviness of the JI3; also a handful or three of horticultural grit for extra drainage. Note: multipurpose compost alone does not have enough nutrients to keep a rose going in a pot for a year or two.

    - Pot up the rose with the potting mix level with the current level of the rose in the pot.

    - Water the rose thoroughly in its new pot (e.g. with ~12 litres of water) to help settle the soil around its roots.

    - Water deeply (e.g. ~12 litres of water at a time) when the top two inches of the soil feels dry — this might be weekly but could be every 3 days if it’s been really hot. Keep in mind that a lot of foliage can prevent rain from getting to the pot so just check even if it’s been raining a lot. Being close to a wall/door may also mean it’s in rain shadow.

    - In late winter — I usually do it in February — prune the plant; then scrape off the top couple of inches of compost carefully and replace with well rotted manure; finally scatter a handful of rose food with micronutrients (e.g. Empathy, Top Rose) around the base of the rose and lightly mix in.

    - Every three or so years, repot the rose (or just put it into the ground, where it can independently search for the water/nutrients it needs from a wider area and won’t need repotting). Even if a rose is fed regularly in a pot, it will eventually use up the goodness in the potting mix and the best thing is to refresh the mix, as @Ceres mentioned.

    - @debs64 mentioned this on another rose problem thread, and I think it could apply here too: “Roses are tough and I find they respond well to pruning. I would cut off all the dead/unhealthy bits then follow the advice given and your rose will flourish.”

    Cambridgeshire, UK
  • @Athelas thank you so much for taking the time to send your advice to me, it is so helpful and I will do all the steps you mentioned. I didn't realise the compost would need replaced so that could definitely be a problem.! 

    At the end you mentioned pruning it, should I follow the steps as advised then prune now, or better to wait to prune until nearer February?
  • AthelasAthelas Posts: 946
    edited July 2023
    No problem at all 😊

    I’d say for now just to cut off any particularly small or poorly looking stems/leaves (really yellow or spotty leaves, or brown/dead stems).

    And then in late winter you can prune it fully — a simple diagram here: https://pin.it/1W4VpcY


    Cambridgeshire, UK
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    Never prune roses in summer . Always wait till winter when they go to sleep . November to March is printing time .
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    Pruning time ……..stupid predictive text ! 
  • Thanks so much everyone. Will repot with new compost and see how we go! 
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